Dream fight with fighters from older tines and the new generation.

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  1. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Donaire would splatter most of the greats of the past. May as well accept it right now.
     
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  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Mega Battery Fashan II is pretty good, its his brother Mega Battery Fashan I that sucks.
     
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  3. Moe Greene

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    Some, not most :nono
     
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  4. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Is he that good?

    I've not seen that much of him really, well.... not to make a judgement like that anyway.
     
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  5. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Donaire would squash most. Give it a few years and he'll prove it IMO.
     
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  6. Moe Greene

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    Not as good a win for Wonjongkam as '7-11 Ladyboy Gym'. He/She was 12 (12)-115-27, a serious Muay Thai hard nut who Pong sparked by merely glancing at him :yikes
     
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  7. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Could Donaire knock Orlando Canizales out?

    Could anybody knock that guy out? Maybe Bazooka Gomez?
     
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  8. Moe Greene

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    Yep, Jofre, Al Brown, Zarate, all better watch out for those hypothetical squashings :deal

    I'm actually not sold on Olivares beating Nonito though.....what is happening to me?!

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  9. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Yes, he's pretty much that good. Watch him...and try and figure out a way to beat him. It's not easy.
     
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  10. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Anyone who beats Montiel that easily makes me a believer, the guy is tremendous.
     
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  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    His left-hook is scary. He just throws it without really cocking it, its not telegraphed in any way. Which sounds simple, but infact most people load up on a left hook and make it a little easier to negate. Donaire's really is as likely to land as a jab for him, its a deadly weapon that he can throw off either foot.
     
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  12. JFT96

    JFT96 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Donaire is the best offensive fighter p4p in boxing at the minute imo. It's frightening what he can do.

    Better than Pacquiao I think
     
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  13. Moe Greene

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    No. Pretty much no one at 118. A better question would be 'Would Nonito Donaire beat Orlando Canizales'? A good question, certainly an intriguing styles clash.

    Donaire is an amazing puncher, form, power, speed and, most importantly, application and punch picking.

    Canizales remains amongst the most beautiful punchers I've ever seen, a notch-below Louis and Arguello but still sublime.

    At 122, yeah (around Canizales' best form) Gomez was insane. I reckon he probably stops everyone there to be honest. The pre-Sanchez Bazooka was an unbelievable operator. Another one of my punch perfect fights is his display against a vastly underrated and very tidy operator in Alberto Davila. Gomez is intimidating there, all the moves, all the punches, and totally effortless, minimal flash and supreme efficiency. Donaire wouldn't do anything with Gomez at 122 either, he'd get terrorised.

    The post-Jones guy; quite a few guys, but obviously that's not what you were referring to, just his best weights :good

    EDIT: My description of Gomez sounds remarkably like my description of Nonito. I must stress, I rate looking that good against Gomez's opposition much higher than looking good over Nonitos.

    Some good fighters in there don't get me wrong. But even Montiel does not match up to Davila (who, admittedly went on to his biggest successes after the Gomez fight which is why I've come prepared) or Zarate (see :hey) and that's why I put more credence in what Gomez did then to what Nonito is doing now.

    To really take on scary opposition he's going to have to go to 126 and fight Gamboa. The scary thing is, Nonitos only really just started. Not a young pup my any means but he's really hitting his stride now, with big fights in the forseeable future and a steady line of quality opposition for him to feed on. If he clears out Bantam with the winner of Agbeko-Mares II and then moves up, then you've got an ATG 118lber right there with the attributes he's displaying chucked in.
     
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  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    The Sydorenko fight is the best fight to see how Donaire is near unstoppable at bantam.

    Right, I know Syderenko is kind of mediocre in the grand scheme of things, yet he's never been handled like that. But really he didn't have a clue what to do, he usually relies on outboxing his opponent and you have virtually no chance of doing that against Donaire due to his punching form and speed. You just can't, he's too big, too fast, too accurate, his footwork is exceptional. So then if you try and take the fight to him, you just get absolutely mullered by stinging shots and they completely bust you up and theres also one punch KO ability so if you get it a bit wrong you're done as well. Nobody has really got to him yet and he's faced some very good fighters, Darchinyan and Montiel are/were p4p talents so its not like he hasn't been tested. There just doesn't seem to be any way for guys of this size to really impose a fight on him, in any way. You need some nuclear powered artillery to even try.
     
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  15. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    Gomez destroyed Zarate, altho a very weight drained 1. was he always that much of a dirty ****ish fighter Moe
     
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