DREAM finished?

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  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    DREAM rep on FEG future: "We need investment money; that's the bottom line"

    by Steven Marrocco on Aug 31, 2010 at 4:00 pm ET
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    PUJI Capital is conducting an internal review of Fighting and Entertainment Group's (FEG) assets and liabilities in advance of a push to attract investors to the struggling fight promotion.

    "The actions they're taking are similar to an audit," FEG's U.S. representative, Mike Kogan, told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) on Monday.

    Kogan said the Japanese investment bank hopes to raise $230 million for FEG, which operates MMA's DREAM promotion and the K-1 kickboxing organization, over the next five years. But with the company's current financial condition, that timeline may need to be shortened.

    More uncertainty arose this past week with reports that FEG had canceled DREAM.17, an event planned for Oct. 25 in South Korea.

    Kogan, though, said that the event was taken off the table earlier this year when DREAM.14, originally scheduled for April 24 in Seoul, was scratched due to the absence of a television broadcast deal in the country.

    "Basically, it's very simple; we don't have any Korean stars – nobody who's enough to attract super strong ticket sales," he said. "So what's the point of going into Korea?"

    DREAM.14 subsequently was rescheduled for May 29 and featured a headliner between Strikeforce welterweight champion Nick Diaz and veteran Hayato Sakurai. It took place in DREAM's usual home of Saitama, Japan.

    Meanwhile, Kogan said DREAM officials are keeping operations lean for the rest of the year while PUJI prepares to shake the money tree. The promotion has two events on its schedule before year's end: DREAM.16, which takes place Sept. 25 in Nagoya, Japan; and Dynamite!! 2010 on New Year's Eve, presumably in Saitama. Additionally, the 2010 K-1 Grand Prix continues with its "Final 16" event on Oct. 2 in Seoul.

    But Kogan admitted FEG's future is grim if the Japanese investment bank does not make headway by the beginning of next year.

    "Are you asking me if we're going to be in business after Dynamite? I don't know," he said. "It's very difficult. Obviously, we're short on revenues, and we need to – besides restructuring – we need to be able to find new sources of revenue.

    "You need money to make money, so to speak. I don't sit in on the financial meetings. But it's very challenging.

    "We need investment money. That's the bottom line."

    He sounded cautiously optimistic about FEG's viability.

    "I know that there are various companies that PUJI has already spoken to that have shown tremendous interest, and there's been ongoing conversations," he said. "There have been a few near misses where we were almost heavily invested (in) by some companies over the years. I think there's interest, but I don't know 100 percent what's going on."

    Kogan, who once ran a computer-hardware company before the dot-com boom and joined up with FEG for 2007's K-1 Dynamite!! USA event, said those who criticized the fight promotion's course are missing the bigger picture.

    "FEG is a complicated company and machine that comes together by a lot of different pieces coming together, and the biggest piece of it is that we'll never understand is the way that Japanese culture works, and the way they do things," he said. "Where I have no problem telling somebody to go [expletive] themselves, they wouldn't, and (they) end up spending money on something we really shouldn't be. You know what I mean? It's just a different culture. They don't operate necessarily how we do. That's just my opinion."

    Whether FEG continues to be viable is yet to be determined. Kogan is resolved either way.

    "If this is our last year, then I need to go look for another job," he said.




    The problem isnt just a capital investment one. They simply dont have a stable of fighters that can bring them the recurring revenue. When the money starts to flow so will the salaries but for now thats a very long way off. DREAM needs fighters and quick.
     
  2. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    I thought they got their damn money.
     
  3. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    notice they didnt mention the k1 max event!!!!

    ****!
     
  4. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    It's such a shame. Nobody does it better than the Asians. I'm sure in around 5 years time they'll have MMA in space with fireworks attached to the eyeballs of all the underdog fighters for fairness. I wouldn't put it past Japan.
     
  5. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    that still would not make up for K1 max

    now if buakaw fought petrosyan in space that would make me happy:D
     
  6. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You laughed at me when I told you that their big Chinese announcement was a bad sign.

    It's said, but I was right.
     
  7. Rob_Floyd

    Rob_Floyd Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I`d hate to see Dream go. Staying up until 4am watching Dream events is my favorite thing in MMA.
     
  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Who said you was right? This is the opinion of ONE FEG representative. Last i checked opinions werent facts.

    Like i already said they have a number of interested investment managers but the problem is their stable. They simple have no fighters that can bring in the revenue. This is largely in part due to the aggresive tactics by the UFC.
     
  9. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dana is laughing as we speak.
     
  10. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are so defensive and have such a need to be right that it is truly comic.

    You literally made a thread titled "DREAM finished". The fact that one FEG rep has that opinion is a BAD SIGN.

    I hope they stick around though. They let Aoki fight with magic pants and I like it!
     
  11. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I said it was bad sign, you vehemently disagreed, do you not now agree it was a bad sign?

    A number of interested investors? They supposedly signed with a huge Chinese investor (that nobody has heard of).
     
  12. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And its not just the opinion of one rep we're basing it on - its also the bare bones schedule they're running.
     
  13. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    You mean an investment manager that YOU've never heard of. Either way its the opinion of ONE of FEG's representatives. PUJI have been brought in to see if DREAM is still economically viable and are raising capital for the brand. Wether you think its a bad sign is irrelavent. The same could have been said of the UFC when the Ferrita's stepped in with their capital injection around the early 2000's and again when the company was going through financial trouble in 04. These things are part of business.

    Il say it again for the umpteenth time there problem is not just capital related its their stable of non-existent fighters.
     
  14. (PimpThaSystem)

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  15. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've got some friends in important international finance jobs; nobody has heard of them.

    It could have been a bad sign, but it was much less of a bad sign; they were buying the company, changing the management, and completely taking over every aspect. They also existed.