Drew101's All-Time 140lb Tournament Thread.

Yep I missed him

 

The only thing that annoys me about 130/140/154 debates, is the fighter that would have fought there not being included.

 

Yeah it's a fine line isn't it. Do you include glaringly obvious guys like Duran at 140, Robinson at 154 and the like. Blind Freddy knows they could have fought there, but....lol

I think it's one in all in, or none.

 

The thing they showed PEAK form at the weight so PBF, Pea, Delahoya should be included.

The funny thing is Chavez could win your comp YET Whitaker would blatantly school him at 140

 

I say all in it makes it a more exciting comp. By all means take the actual version that competed there

 

Hardly ever mentioned, but Buddy McGirt peaked at 140 IMO and would easily get in my top 16 at 140lbs. Zack Padilla never got the chance to show how goods he was, but on what he did, he too would be top 16 in my book.

Others that deserve mention include Pinky Mitchell; Mushy Callahan; Duilio Loi; Bruno Arcari; Roger Mayweather and Frankie Randall

 

juan martin coggi???

always liked him, but he wasnt special IMO.

 

most of his opposition sucked IMO. he usually beat second tier guys. when up against a top level guy, he lost.

 

About time this one was done, it's the most evenly contested of them all.


ps. Including the likes of Ray Robinson will make it ****...so don't. :good

pps. Include Terry Marsh instead. :happy

 

I don't have him in my top 16 of all time, but Camacho might be an element you want to consider putting in there. He was unique.

 

What would you say if i said Duran had about 20 fights at Junior Welterweight including a win over future champion Saoul Mamby? 20 fights at 140 isn't something to scoff at, even without a title.

20 fights is half a career by many modern standards. I didn't realise he'd had so many there.

 

I would say Duran had no fights as a Junior Welter. He pretty much moved straight up to 147 after DeJesusIII. And I would not include his non title fights while at 135lbs as Junior Welter fights.

Mind you I did read ring atricle from 78ish hyping Duran's move to 140lbs and potential match-ups.

Sure there is a technical argument to say they were 140lbs fights, and Duran fought legitmate 140lbers of the time; but in reality those matches were catchweight (as in no contracted weight obligation) or over weight Lightweight clashes.

 

Well if Duran and his opponent were both weighing between 135 and 140 wouldn't you be able to use those bouts as a barometer of how he'd go, at, erm, junior welterweight? It is Junior Welterweight. Granted his actual achievements there are not significant but we sure know he fought there plenty of times.

Having said all this i can understand him being excluded, just pointing out he is very traveled at junior welter.