Drop the testing... why?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rja733, May 4, 2010.


  1. rja733

    rja733 New Member Full Member

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    Do people want Mayweather to drop the testing because they think its ubsurd to ask or because they want to see the fight happen and don't care?

    Mcguire and Sosa fooled you, Marion Jones fooled you, so did Bonds, Mosley, Toney, Palmiero, etc etc yet people are actually upset that a guy, in a sport where steroid use could actually be fatal, would ask for testing?! How many times do people have to be fooled before they wake up.

    I don't know if Manny uses or has used steroids. What i do know is that asking for blood testing makes a lot more sense than one saying a teaspoonn of blood weakens them. Boxing has and always has had a lot of corrupt parts to it, from the governing bodies to the promoters, to the judges. Steroid use in the sport is more probable than not. It would seem to me that if Myaweather was more LIKED and made this request, like if DLH asked for it at his prime, everyone would be all for it. But because it's Floyd many people want to act like he's asking Pacman for his first born!

    I just don't get why people aren't honest with thier motives. You don't like the guy, you want him to lose so that guides your opinion.
     
  2. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Every ******* on the Forum would be blasting Mayweather night and day if it was Pacquiao asking for the testing and Mayweather refusing.
     
  3. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the problem is with someone making up their own special rules.

    What If Floyd demanded that the fight take place with head gear, to prevent brain trauma? Surely preventing brain trauma is a worthy cause? Yes, but that's not the rules.
    It is percieved that Floyd has a history of not seeking out the biggest challenges, and when you consider that his only reason of asking for these tests is that "Pac Man is too good", it looks bad. Where was the urge to clean up the sport against Baldomir, or Gatti? Did FMJ just now hear about roids?

    Blood testing for all, might be a good idea. Blood testing for some, is a bad idea.
     
  4. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I would also like if they are going to start doing this, for the company involved to provide the public with a disclosure proving that the two fighters being tested are both being treated and tested the exact same amount of times.
    it would be ****ed up to learn that Mosley was tested just days before the fight while he was on his way to vegas and Floyd was only tested a couple of times, it would be ****ed up to learn that Floyds last test was three weeks before the fight.....
    They should atleast disclose this information to ensure the fans alike that not only are they cleaning up the sport but that both fighters are being treated the same
     
  5. rja733

    rja733 New Member Full Member

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    See boxing is a little different. There are ALL types of rules that fighters make up, catch weights, glove types and sizes, penalties for going over weight etc. IN this situation the rule being discussed is for protection. It's also testing for a guy who's rise in the sport does raise suspicion.

    On one hand you're asking Floyd to get into the ring with a guy he feels might be on something and risk his health for your entertainment. But you're not willing to require that a guy give a teaspoon of blood for the same entertainment.
     
  6. footballfan098

    footballfan098 Member Full Member

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    I want Floyd to drop the demands because it isn't his place to regulate the sport. You can't pick and choose who gets blood testing. Everyone gets tested or nobody gets tested.

    This does need to become mandatory though.
     
  7. rja733

    rja733 New Member Full Member

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    Also the testing that is done now is not effective hence why people rarely get caught. Hence why shane never tested positive even though we know he took steroids
     
  8. rja733

    rja733 New Member Full Member

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    I can respect that. But diff rules are made in boxing all the time. Tyson made holifield under go testing.
     
  9. simon850

    simon850 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With what could be the biggest fight in boxing history, they should set the standards for the sport. Prove they are clean and put pressure on those in control to become stricter on drug testing.
     
  10. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    .....50 years from now.

    grandkid: grandpa.... why didn't pacman fight mayweather?
    grandpa: because the other guy felt that he was imposing his will by making him take
    a blood test.
    grandkid: wtf? ...so...so he didn't want to take the test?
    grandpa: yup...woulda been one for the history books...one for the sport... lots of
    money to be made
    grandkid: what a ****ing sham.

    grandpa: don't you mean shame?

    grandkid: no...a ****ing sham grandpa.
     
  11. rja733

    rja733 New Member Full Member

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    Not really sure floyd sr is the best guy to quote. But of Mayweather did NOT want to fight manny he could come up with a way better way to avoid the fight than this. I mean, youre telling me he concocted this testing KNOWING that manny was afraid of giving blood to get out of fighting him? Really? you REALLY think that?
     
  12. footballfan098

    footballfan098 Member Full Member

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    That's fine, it still doesn't change my stance.

    I do understand both sides but for me the ends don't justify the means. It needs to be done the right way.

    Another argument on the Manny side is, Floyd wants this testing because he believes Manny is on PEDs. Why does he think that? Because Floyd Sr believes it. What is that based on? It's circular logic. He's on something because I think he is. People shouldn't have to defend themselves against every single allegation made against them (ones that are not based on fact). Someone made the very good analogy of "I know I'm doing nothing illegal in my home but it doesn't mean I'm gonna let the cops walk right in".

    Floyd is the smartest business man in the game. This was all calculated. This never became an issue until Pacquiao. I can't remember where I read it but it's the same principal: "2 guys are running for some sort of office one advisor tells his candidate (we'll call him 1) to accuse the other of ****ing some sort of animal. Candidate 1 said I know that's not true. To which the advisor replied but he's got to spend the time to respond and defend himself, if he doesn't people assume it to be true". This is the same exact thing.

    I personally believe if you just worry about getting the end point (random blood testing) and you go about it the wrong way (individual fighters making demands) you miss the point all together (random blood testing for all fighters).
     
  13. It's already verified that Mosley was tested more than Mayweather, so obviously they weren't testing at the same times.
     
  14. Marion Jones never failed a USADA blood test.


    She did fail a urine test though. :think
     
  15. footballfan098

    footballfan098 Member Full Member

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    That's very interesting. Do you have a link?