Drug testing policies in boxing

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I like that my insect repellant seems to have worked. :yep

    So far, intelligent, solid dialogue.
     
  2. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd like to know what performance enhancements grass could offer?

    Maybe it allows them to veg out and not get too bored while watching the others dive. :lol:
     
  3. Asian_boxing

    Asian_boxing Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks for hiting me up on twitter about this.

    My view is that if a fighter is found guilty of deliberately using a a substance to gain an unfair advantage they should be given a serious punishment. Maybe 3 years for a first offense, 5 for a second and a lifetime ban for a third.

    The grey areas, not deliberate use for example or something similar to the TRT thing that was rage a few years back, is harder to explain. Unfortunately due to the way TRT was done and the Lance Armstrong affair I'm less willign to give the benefit of the doubt for as much as I once did.

    As an athlete, or in this case a fighter, they should be aware of everything they put in their body. If there is a cough medicine they take or a herbal recipe their mother gives them to cure a cold it should be run past a regional testing body. Get permission then if it's dodgy you have something to fall back on.

    As for non performance enhancing, or recreational. I'm in a weird position I guess. I understand that they probably don't help a fighter in the ring, but on the other hand could they not just wait until after the fight to get high? What's the harm in waiting a few days and get stoned as a celebration if you win.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I could see it maybe having a performance-enhancing application in diving, where the muscles need to be relaxed in order to assume the proper form prior to springing off the board, and lots of even seasoned athletes I'm sure tighten up at the last second due to nerves.

    So there is that.

    BOXING, though?

    I don't care if we're talking 1 hit off a joint or ripping a bong in the locker room, climbing into a ring with any THC fresh in your system is suicidal...whether for actual competition or even just light sparring.

    I'm not even kidding. Boxing is dangerous, inherently, WITHOUT inhibiting your reflexes and situational awareness.

    Would anyone consider boxing drunk a safe or sane course of action? Would anyone consider it unfair toward one's sober opponent? Hell no.
     
  5. acr347

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    I'm not sure how you could dive high. For such a sport that I know nothing about, but it appears to require huge amounts of focus, and neuromuscular precision of ring able to adapt mid air or whatever, weed seems to me the law thing I'd take. Plus the dosing woukd be hard to get down, as well as weed being such an imprecise drug, unless I'm guessing you are getting marinol prescribed.

    I would think they would go the other way for focus like dextroamphetamine or modafanil, which is what conte used to give sprinters to increase focus during stress, which is important to come out of the blocks and that routine.

    But I'm not a diver, but more importantly if it worked good for her.
     
  6. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The most probable is that it is simply psychosomatic. Many people come to the conclusion, rational or otherwise that they do certain things better while high/drunk/stoned. Its actually pretty common.

    The idea that weed lets them not get bored while waiting might not actually be too far off as well. Things like diving and golf are largely about managing your mental state, and not getting to distracted/bored and thinking you will do better high might actually help some people do better.

    Mostly placebo tough. AFAIK the only thing weed actually helps people do better is write bad poetry, and win hot dog eating contests.
     
  7. TKO6

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    No drug testing is going to be 100% effective but the attitude and method behind testing in Boxing and other sports is a joke.

    It's universally agreed that PED's have no place in sports so as professional sports men they should have to submit themselves to the most effective testing possible.

    Year round random testing should be manditory or your license to box revoked.

    Blood passports for every professional prize fighter.

    Completely indipendent testing bodies having individual contracts with a body should be oulawed.

    Lifetime bans for anyone caught, they put their lives on the line it shoudl be zero tollerance.
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Every case is different in boxing. You bring up some good cases. Dawson should've been fined.

    On a side note...I don't think that you can take a mans title from him for smoking weed. Rematch in order.

    Coke on the other hand and any other stimulant used in snorting or injection form should be perceived as a PED. Coca leaves in herbal form...I doubt that fighters will be drinking coca tea lol.

    Diuretic users should also just be fined. And I don't see the benefits of barbituates, but you do have cases where it can be abused, but rarely by boxers. Not all barbituates are bad. They are dangerous if you become hooked because they are hard to get off. I'm only talking about the benefits of this with boxers.

    HGH and Stanozolol, and any other anabolic steroid deserves fine AND suspension. I don't recommend 2 years out of boxing. A year suspension and then life time banishment if caught again and found guilty-BUT ALL CASES SHOULD BE HEARD and decided before the punishment. Not all cases will deserve a year ban. There's levels to this **** in my book lol.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The same thing happens in cycling all the time, yet the real drug cheats and the questionable drug cheats are all lumped together without any real distinction. There's a lot of guys in both sports that have had their career ruined or had a shadow cast over them in the name of a drug cheat is a drug cheat quasi moral relativism in the drug testing world. Which isn't quite fair especially in the case of some things like weed.
     
  10. Badbot

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    If you win and get busted for cocaine, man more credit to you.
     
  11. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal

    Same with weed if you try to use it during the fight. :lol:

    Problem with weed is that you could have smoked it 4 weeks prior to the fight and still test positive.

    A fine is applicable, but stripping the fighter of the win is ridiculous for recreational drugs.
     
  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Cant they determine when they used the drug based on the amount that was in the taken samples?
    :think

    And on the subject of alcohol, i dont think it should be allowed.
    A little bit of alcohol can clear your mind and nevers before a fight. I know because i did it :!:
    My first amateur match i was frozen in fear, i could barely figure out what was going on. I forgot that my opponent was there to take off my head.
    Soooo.... next time i had something different in my water bottle :hey

    And there is this silly story of a match back in the day during which a guy got knocked down, crawled to the ringside table, had himself a drink after which he got up and KOd his opponent.
     
  13. antonio plaisir

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    coupla things, weed is 1 of the few recreationals that isn't poisonous, and i was told by a sports scientist friend that some organisations consider weed as performance enhancing because it increases the transfer of oxygen from the lungs into the blood. as you state, though, actually being high almost certainly more than negates any benefit.

    as for your "insect repellent", i suspect it had more to do with the length of your opening post!
     
  14. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:


    Afaik they just test for the presence of something like weed, and don't do anything like test the amount present in the blood- so a month later you could still test positive.

    I guess they could do something like test the amount in the bloodstream. Probably a bit redundant though because you'd have to be bat**** crazy to enter the ring stoned.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

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