Dubois did 25 headbuts vs Hrgovic, video count

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  1. dragansimic22A

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    Number 10 he should have been DQ

    Number 14 intentional headbuck opening the other cut

    + 3 low blows, for which Usyk got 3 minutes of recovery

    why is everyone ignoring this
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wow that's a lot more than I noticed during the fight. Some of them were innocuous but he was clearly leading with his head and as the shorter guy that's going to present a real threat to a taller opponent. Referee should of done a better job, I only noticed 3 really bad butts and even then I thought the ref should have warned him for use of the head with just 3 bad headbutts. Points should of been deducted.

    Infuriating thing watching that slow motion capture of them is that Hrgovic could of easily stopped the majority of them with a simple collar tie and then press down with his forearm preventing Dubois from coming from below to butt him. Wlad and Lewis used to do this all the time to shorter opponents. He knows how to use his lead hand to set up the right hand using similar methods but doesn't seem to know how to use the same technique defensively, he seems to have never trained any defensive skills, he's all offence and in hindsight against a big bruiser like Dubois that's a bad style match up. Probably also why Joyce beat him in the amateurs, his offence is his defence, he should avoid guys that try to walk him down until he actually learns some defence.
     
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  3. dragansimic22A

    dragansimic22A Member Full Member

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    I didnt notice them at all.

    But the low blows that knocked down Usyk, Referee gave Usyk 2 minutes to recover, Hrgovic took 3 of them.

    Hrgovic should have protested, cheating is cheating.
     
  4. Pugguy

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    Haven’t watched the vid yet but did notice Dubois using the head a lot and also coming on with low blows a bit later in the fight. 100% the referee should’ve been doing something about it. Pathetic refereeing.
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes he should have protested, I was surprised he didn't even after the first headbutt I saw which was early on and very bad and blatant. His corner too should have been screaming bloody murder at the ref to do something but they did nothing from what I saw to address the issue. Which is another reason why I think he needs a new head trainer and team because the current one did nothing to help him in that fight.
     
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  6. dragansimic22A

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    Look at number 10 headbutt, that should have been pure DQ

    Even the 2:51 mark has the referee looking directly at the headbutt and not stepping in.

    The fact that not a single boxing portal is talking about this is saying something, it is Hearns doing
     
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  7. dragansimic22A

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    Look at 2:51 mark, is he blind?
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    The one at 3:10 I think is worse as he was going in with momentum and again the ref was looking right at it and did nothing. I didn't notice most of them because it was a real slugfest but it's a ref's job to note these things, not score or get caught up in the drama of the fight and in this regard he was inept.
     
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  9. Salty Dog

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    wait...i thought you were gonna go down with the ship?
     
  10. pugilista

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    I'm the furthest thing from a Dubois fan, and I rooted for Hrgovic in that fight. But this video is not proving anything. Maybe there were a few shady headbutts from Dubois, but what I see here in 90% of the cases is that Dubois was tucking his chin in and coming into the pocket under Hrgovic's arms, who was very stiff and upright. When that happens, there could be a lot of accidental head bumps. In my opinion that's what was happening here—mostly accidental bumps as they are not high-impact contacts whatsoever. These are not enough to hurt a fighter. It can be frustrating, sure, but to say Dubois headbutted his way to victory is very far-fetched. You could say he was reckless with his head and didn't really care if he bumped into Hrgovic's head while coming in. But using it as a third punch? I just don't see it.
     
  11. dragansimic22A

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    Actually I think referee called it or something, and it then was overrulled by the judges. They probably have videoplayback if they made that call.

    While agnowleging Hrgovic terrible power and stamina, it is clear that judges, Warren, Don Charles and possibly MrTurki were all on it. For Hearn it would be cheaper if Hrgovic won, I think.
     
  12. dragansimic22A

    dragansimic22A Member Full Member

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    Man I am already sunk, but this truth aint gonna present itself.
     
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  13. dragansimic22A

    dragansimic22A Member Full Member

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    25 accidental bumps
     
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  14. pugilista

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    Yes, that was a blatant and dirty one, he acts like if he was a battering ram. But to be honest, that's the only one in the whole video that looks deliberate and high impact. The rest genuinely look accidental/careless to me. Also, slow motion could also make such things look worse.
     
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    lol respect!!! at least you can swim :headbang: