Dubois has a huge tactical problem vs Usyk

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  1. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk will utterly school and make dubois quit late again. The ref will be American and not British, so if dubois aims low again he will get a point deduction.
     
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  2. rolzone

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    Which part?
     
  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd argue AJ is more skilled than Dubios which allowed him to catch a counter and follow up. Usyk has a solid chin and ring IQ which allowed him to ride it out though.

    In saying that, we don't know what toll the Fury fights have had. I still back Usyk to up the ante and finish the job mid rounds though.
     
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  4. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Active Member Full Member

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    Its funny thats exactly what Andy Lee said in the build up to Dubois vs Parker, and it definitely carries some truth. Look at Dubois recent wins and every time he has success with the jab that opens up the rest of his offense. And to be fair it is a good jab with power behind it.

    Its especially noticeable in the Joshua fight where Joshua was bamboozled by it leading to the right hand which was the beginning of the end for him. But if an opponent takes that away, or just eats it a la Joyce, then Dubois has no clue on how to land his offense, and that is his plans A, B and C out of the window leading to him getting disheartened.
     
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  5. Shazzar23

    Shazzar23 Demetrius Bivol Full Member

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    Big time. Not only is he slow as molasses, he has no ring craft or ring IQ. He's not an intelligent fighter at all.
     
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  6. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Still raging that we didnt see Bowe V Lewis Full Member

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    For me personally if Dubois is going to win. Dubois is going to have to do what he does best in the ring and physically make it an ugly street fight and get Usyk's head as early and agressively as possible as he did against AJ.

    Doing that is a gamble still because if that fails, his gas tank will be empty unlike Usyk's and have one foot on the ground from exhaustion.

    I just cannot see Dubois winning the battle of the jabs, nor outboxing Usyk.
     
  7. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    AJs biggest round was probably round 9 in Usyk 2, and I think Dubois can have rounds like this. Fury had him eating uppercuts in Usyk 1. He is not untouchable and unbeatable. In both of those fights he showed incredible resilience and came around, in the very next round v AJ, and stopped the rot quickly...but if AJ can have a round line he did in the 9th, then so can Dubois against a much older, possibly slower Usyk. And I can't see Dubois blowing his load like AJ did. Those saying he has no engine, can't box, has no chin, need to go watch his career. Kid does the basics very well, his footwork is excellent, rarely out of position. Is Usyk favourite here? Of course he is, head and shoulders best of his generation. But he's not fighting the same Dubois, demonstrably not, and nor is Dubois fighting the same Usyk.

    I have consistently picked Dubois by stoppage for this one. I think it would have been better for him to have fought Parker as I believe hed have brutalised big Joe and his confidence and ability would have improved exponentially again, and this inactivity is the only big doubt I now have.

    I know I'm in a minority here, and I won't be surprised if Usyk wins a lopsided decision but the weaknesses he has shown play right into Dan's hands, and if he can hurt him he won't let him off the hook. Can't wait for this fight.
     
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  8. chaunceygardina

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    Tony Bellew actually had some words of sense, saying yesterday, that he reckons Usyk will have to climb off the canvas, for the first time, to take this one. Not a bad shout that for a bet, and eventuality. And if that were to happen, it should hopefully be the kick up the arse Usyk needs, to retire a great!
     
  9. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not even sure why we need to see this again other than the KD/low blow.
    Daniel can't keep up with Usyk stamina wise and doesn't have the agility to walk him down and deal with Usyk's movement.
    His only hope is to go hard with both hands to head and body and try pin Usky down, we know the chink in the armour is Usyk's body he's complained more than once about legel blows that target his midsection he clearly doesn't like it but no one has been able to sustain it.

    He can't be outboxed and you can beat him late.... DD should go out stick it on him and see if he lands the big shot... Maybe try a few lead rights to setup a left hand followed by the straight but easier send than done when you're in with a magician.
     
  10. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Not all heavyweights have one punch KO power and Dubois hasn`t knocked out many fighters with one shot, Wilder scored more one punch KO`s.
     
  11. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    That not Dubois style, he pumps the jab and uses in and out foot movement to land his shots, his feet are usesd to evade shots, he doesn`t use a high guard so if he walks straight in he`ll get picked off.
     
  12. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly I don't see how DD can win this except a fight ending combination.
     
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  13. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    I see it that way too. If Matchroom stacks the deck with judges, refs, and even a loose canvas to slow Usyk
     
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  14. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk enabled new XPs in 2 Fury fights, thus he'll beat Dubois easier than the 1st time.

    Usyk by KO in 8.
     
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  15. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another thing I think that bears on Usyk is the psychological aspect of things - whilst Dubois has really came on against lesser opponents recently and seems to have found more heart and mental fortitude, does he really believe that he is going to beat Usyk? Maybe the low-blow gave him a false sense of it, but I think where Usyk really excels is projecting this profound & unwavering sense of belief in his own ability, that I think for most opponents get's amplified when he starts executing well and gets into his rythym.

    If Dubois does not manage to get some early success (and i mean in round 1!) then those doubts are going to start piling up, and every sneaky jab and backhand that Usyk connects with is just going to add to the 'mentally drowning' thing Usyk does so well.
     
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