Dubois is currently HW 3rd Place?

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Dubois is currently HW 3rd Place?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I could potentially see a debate with having Parker rated above but not sure about the other 2 even though I'm not disputing that they could potentially win against him

    Fury's last 3 fights - loss to Usyk, Ngannou on his debut, Chisora who was 1-3 in his last 4 fights
    It's been over 2 years since Fury beat a top 10 rated HW

    Dubois in under a year has beaten undefeated Miller, undefeated Hrgovic and Joshua

    Overall I rate Fury higher in overall accomplishments etc
    But monthly ratings can shift when someone hasn't done as much recently etc.

    Zhang lost a debatable decision to Hrgovic who Dubois stopped
    I don't think Zhang has any wins as good as Dubois has
     
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  2. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    I'd say top 3 should be Usyk, Dubois, Parker right now.

    What has Fury done to be in the top 3 still? lose to no1? get a contentious decision over an MMA fighter? beat Del Boy and Shyte in 2022?
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    This
    People are thinking historically rather than at the current time
     
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  4. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have to disagree here. Fury only just had his first loss against Usyk and was both WBC champion and the lineal champion up until that point. Dust needs to settle on the rematch before we can put Dubios ahead of Fury.
     
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  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's hard to rank them, and would be just as hard to question ranking any of them above the other beyond doing so as simply a personal preference. I'm not really a fan of any of them so I believe my rankings to be at least somewhat impartial. Fury to me, it's hard for me to rank anyone over him other than the obvious Usyk. We saw what we saw vs. Ngannou but we still haven't seen anyone else dominate Fury (aside from Usyk who I think did). As for Dubois, Parker, Zhang etc......they've all shown limitations. They are definitely all beatable. And yes Dubois seems to be streaking a bit at the moment, but Zhang still dominated and banished to the darkness someone who literally beat him into submission with one hand. I also readily admit things can change in 5 years but Joyce was always a slow lumbering oaf, he beat Dubois with the same style he lost to Zhang with.

    The biggest problem is that anyone of them can lose to any one of the others at any given time (other than Uysk). So anyone having Dubois # 2, while I don't agree I can see why they would. And monthly ratings definitely shift, my current as opposed to my ranking just before are completely different
     
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  6. ChiefGego

    ChiefGego Active Member Full Member

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    >Usyk's on his way out

    Yeah. He's only just ran through Chisora, AJ x2, Dubois, Fury. What a loser. That Dubois win definitely is the only thing keeping him from being below the guy who quit to Joyce, Usyk, almost against Lerena, and made his rebuild coming back against "Double cheese" Ruiz, and Big Pharma Miller without his pharma. AJ win was nice but you think he's on the same level as a Usyk?
     
  7. Cleaver

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    Father Time waits for no man. Usyk is almost 38 and on his way out.
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you think Fury's last 2 years warrant him still being number 2 ? That's what ratings are they change from month to month year to year. Fury say beating Wladimir 9 years ago has nothing to do with what Fury has achieved in the last 2 years which is not alot and does effect his ranking as of now.

    Dubois recent resume = stoppages over Miller, Hrgovic top 10 rated, Joshua top 10 rated.

    Fury recent resume = Chisora 3rd time not top 10 rated, Ngannou MMA fighter highly disputed win, Usyk clear loss.

    Dubois IBF Champion.

    Fury no belt.
     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People had no problem rating AJ at #2 or #3 despite an even poorer recent resume.

    Fury has only recently suffered his first loss against the undisputed champion Usyk, who he is rematching in a few months time. He is clearly #2 until proven otherwise.
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No he's not clearly number 2 he has no belt and hasn't done nothing noteworthy for 2 years.

    Again I don't think you realise how rankings work its based on recent form not what you did 9 years ago.
     
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  11. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    1. Usyk
    2. Fury
    3. Dubois
    4. Parker
    5. Zhang
    6. Kabayel
    7. Barkole
    8. AJ
    9. Hrgovic
    10. Ajagba

    Yes Dubois has a belt, but Usyk vacated. Fury despite suffering defeat, he had a close fight with Usyk, while Dubois got knocked out.
     
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  12. naranja

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    It'll be updated in three months anyway
     
  13. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dubois run of 3 wins beats Fury’s best 3 consecutive wins
     
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  14. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unfortunately for you there's more to the ranking system than that. The Ring Magazine seems to agree that it goes Usyk, Fury then Dubios.

    Just curious as to how you would justify AJs recent #3 rating. You skipped over that point in my last post.
     
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  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    lol how many times are you people gonna bring up Wilder in threads that have nothing to do with him? My God you people need a ****ing life.