Dubois Vs Joyce / Whyte Vs Povetkin unlikely to go ahead

I've been in lockdown since march the 1st. If the rest of the country did the same we wouldn't be in this horror show. I didn't need a prime minister to tell me we were going to be like Spain and Italy. It was obvious. And I am thick as **** yet could see it coming! Absolutely criminal the government made such a mess of it all.

 

To be fair, at the time of mine and a few other posters flippancy, Italy nor Spain were at the point they are now. Fair play to anyone who saw this coming.

 

Worst hit parts of Italy lockdown started in February. I was being mocked by friends and family thinking I lost the plot...all because the government ****ed it up so badly.

 

I still think it's not that bad though, the virus. These pandemics are bound to happen. People are acting like it all went wrong, if only we'd done this, if only we'd done that, looking for someone to blame. But it's a disease, a virus. They come along. No one wants to get it, of course. But It will hit a lot of people, some will die. A sizeable majority will not die.
People might call that flippant, callous even, but it is just the harsh reality of life.
The survival rate is very high, with no treatment needed. Think how worse this could be.

People see the daily figures and the projections and think the world is ending or something like that but the figures are still quite small relative the actual numbers of people in the country, they are small compared to pandemics this country has endured in the past, and they are misleading ....... people follow this every day but ask them : what are the figures of total deaths from all causes in the UK compared with, say, the same time last year ? Do people even know the normal figures ? They don't know. Without knowing that, how can they know how bad the toll is ?
Again, people will read that and think it wrong or callous or denialist or whatever, because they are highly/over-emotional about the thing.

I know this thing is ravaging the NHS and all that. I understand WHY the politicians went against the "herd immunity" line. I completely agree this virus is real and serious and that no one wants a health service to be outstripped by demand and for people who need to be treated (for anything) to be left untreated. No one wants that. Perhaps people will now see how important investment in the NHS is.

But I stick by what I said about the economic effects and fall out we will see over the coming months and years being WORSE than the actual disease. Unfortunately, we are heading into a era of economic decline that is unprecedented since the 1930s, and that will take many many lives, many years off of lives, and cause all sorts of trouble in an already unstable world.

(For the record, I don't consider that "Tony" you refer to as a legitimate postor here on the British forum. I never have. You know as well as I do. The best advice of course is to ignore him. But, like many other here, I engaged with him and wasted more than a few hours. Life goes on.)

 

Not sure that’s necessarily true. You have to remember this was a very fast moving story. The biggest week for me was during the Cheltenham festival. On the Monday you had Leicester v Villa in the Premier League and Cheltenham started Tuesday without much issue. By Friday all the football had been cancelled and many were surprised Cheltenham was even going ahead. Johnson’s tone had massively changed at that point from ‘striking a balance’ to ‘a lot of people are going to die and this is going to get very bad indeed.’

Even into the next week we had people on here moaning that it wasn’t worse than flu and why shut everything down just to save a few pensioners. It seemed they had missed an incredibly simple point; it’s not flu, it’s got no vaccine, nobody has any natural antibodies to it, and if we allow half a million to get ill at the same time hundreds of thousands would die including vast numbers of healthy, young people.

 

The survival rate is high because people can get treatment. If you can't get treatment because all of the hospitals are absolutely full then the survival rate will be impacted. That's why we adopted the isolation approach rather than herd immunity.

I don't think many think the world is ending or anything like that. You however do, based on your repeated posts in this thread talking about millions and millions being forced to die and the end of society as we know it if we don't keep everything open and carry on as normal. Well, that isn't happening, so I assume you still maintain this is what is going to happen? If anyone should be unduly concerned, it should be you.

You've changed your tune a little, which is fine, but I suspect that's largely because you slightly embarrassed yourself with the blood 'n guts drama of your posts from three weeks back when you were very much in the 'why destroy the entire global economy to save a few old people' camp, which of course looks a bit ridiculous today. Bloody violence in the streets has been replaced by people queuing patiently outside Tesco. Even the panic buying has largely stopped.

 

What's a few hundred billion added debt anyway? We had 4.8 trillion of debt beforehand.

 

That's rich coming from the forums biggest bellend.

 

Give it a ****ing rest ! You would give an aspirin an headache you.

 

You know f all about anything you muppet echos in my head ever day now