Fascinatingly similar career trajectories of these two fighters. Do not pass the eye test; unrefined technique (lot of people seem to be seeing something I am not) Tremendously hyped Overly muscled frame Large social media following plus sponsorships before meaningful fight Seem to have never encountered a consistent jab during first step up Get jabbed for 9/10 rounds Get JTFO What am I missing here? How are these guys amassing such a huge following by barely talking and KO'ing a journeyman or two, only to step up and get JTFO? People call Crawford boring, but Yarde and Dubois are a lot more Crawford than they are Floyd/Fury. It seems that whatever hype machine built these two up will not stop and reflect, but instead turn its gaze to another.
I dont agree. I dont like yarde at all. On the other hand, I think dubois can get important things if he works in the right direction. I dont put yarde and dubois in the same bag. At least not by now.... Yarde is a hype job without any hope.... dubois.... I think he can do stuff if he works.
It's a little different at heavyweight where you can be a bit more flawed if you have power. People get more hyped about huge scary guys than a better boxer like a Frank Sanchez. I'm kind of excited for Makhmudov for example, in my mind I could picture him wrecking AJ, but hes probably more likely to get exposed by a guy with good fundamentals
I don't get this line of reasoning at all. Dubois is a big stiff idiot, with the boxing IQ of a gnat. He knows how to walk forward, jab and land his right, that is all. He's like a slow, less dynamic lighter hitting AJ. Yes, I rate Joyce, but I also don't think Joyce had to break much of a sweat at all beating him yesterday. The reality is, Dubois had 2 solid rounds, and he blew his load in both of them. Yarde on the other hand is going to demolish Lyndon Arthur next month. Yeah, he lost to the shell of Kovalev, but that same shell was coming off of one of his best wins against Eleider Alvarez, and that shell with a limited amount of time to prepare for his match against Canelo, still managed take 7 or 8 rounds off of Canelo, and was competitive in the rest. Yarde looked limited against Kovalev, because Kovalev is one of the best pure boxers in the sport, and if it weren't for the stamina issues and chin issues that's befallen him since he started hitting the booze a little too hard, he'd still be a force to be reckoned with. Dubois got thrown in there with a solid fighter, Yarde got thrown in there with a professor of his craft, and still had enough to almost get the Krusher out of there late, and unlike Dubos, he was jabbed in the face until he literally fell down. Yarde has far more of an upside than Dubois, and it wouldn't shock me if he goes on to win a title. His punch selection is more impressive, his speed is more impressive, his power is decent, his combination punching is more impressive and his chin is quality. Yarde on every level except for power is superior to Dubois.
Yarde was not in the fight with kovalev until he had one great round in which he punched himself out and was a sitting duck from there on in, kovalev has jtfo a few fighters. yarde couldnt pick himself up from that last jab. Haye hurt thompson but punched himself and got punched around the ring for that round, to exhausted to fight back, thats why i always say hayes stamina isnt elite. dubois was in the fight had and was very competitive joyce had 3 rounds id say you could say was his 3 close ones and 4 dubois landed the better stuff, he shouldnt dropped to his knee, he had more in his tank, he quit, he wasnt physically beaten so he should have not quit.
yarde is 29, basically he is what he is. Dubois is 23. 20 freaking 3. That's a baby, he can still learn A LOT In rounds 1 to 5 more or less, I saw him doing very good offensive job, he clipped joyce hard and often enough so that we can all in this forum say that joyce has a very very very good chin. I'm not saying dubois is better than yarde. I'm saying that imho dubois can be better than yarde. Actually I think that he can be a top notch HW if he manages to learn what he needs to learn (to deal with a long jab, for instance, to start with). I saw things yesterday that I liked, that's all. In yarde I dont like anything.
Yes but, when he went for it, he got to him, when Dubois went for it, he never got to him, and gassed out both times. Also, imagine a 250 pound 6'6 Krusher in there last night. Dubois would have been battered into submission in 5. Also, Dubois wasn't all that competitive, the reality is, Joyce controlled the pace of the fight, and never really allowed him into it, and as much as I like Joyce, he's not even close to the fighter Krusher is, even this diminished version is far quicker, far more agile, and better in every department.
Yeah, but even at 29, he's still better than Dubois will probably ever be. As far as teaching an old dog new tricks, if Gabe Rosado can put on a masterclass against Danny Jacobs at 34, there's still hope for Yarde. Yeah, he needs to shed some of the muscle, could be a little more fluid, work on several of his flaws, but overall, he was in against one of the best jabbers in the sport. No shame in getting outjabbed by him. I rate losing to Kovalev but in a match where he never stopped trying, and almost had him out of there once, as a far less shameful performance, and one that can be built upon. Whereas Dubois, there's not much ese he can do. Sure he can improve, but how mentally affected will he be after this? How physically affected will he be after this? How much did he learn? He had the fight beaten out of him and looked hopeless by the 5th. This wasn't a learning experience for Daniel, it was an emasculation and a confidence destroy, and there's really nothing good that he can take away from it.
I dont know, we dont agree in this point. Probably he can learn more from this defeat than from any other fight vs those guys that were not actually good enough to teach him what he needed to learn. Imho the problem was his oposition. Laughable oposition, and then, suddenly, joyce, who was way better than what his team expected, I guess. I never close the door to a 23 yo fighter. Too young. We will see in a few years, let's see what material is dubois made of.
lyndon artur beats yarde in 12 round decision , i am calling it i also called it that teo beats loma if you check my post history in the thread below https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...o-early-for-lopez.654873/page-2#post-20644994
Yarde will mangle that bum. I've seen Arthur 3 times, he's not impressed me even once. He's God awful. Goddamn, what is it with Frank Warren and his fans? He's throwing yet another undefeated hot prospect into a match, where's he's clearly going to be in over his head. He's a terrible borderline nihilistic matchmaker. And all of the fanboys are eating it up on a silver platter and buying the line of BS that Arthur is special and will be something. How gullible are you all? Jesus Christ.
Yarde is pretty good. He traveled to russia to fight a game kovalev coming off a big win, and almost had kovalev out of there. I still do not believe kovalev vs canelo was an actual fight. Weeks leading up to the fight I was saying on here something doesn't look right, kovalev is acting fishy during the press interviews. But yeah much respect to yarde for fighting a dangerous man in his backyard, and making zero excuses after the loss.