Duelling States Of Denial: The Denying Of Canelo Alvarez Vs. Miguel Cotto Denial

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I said he was old and past it, it was more impressive than Cotto's win over Martinez, at least Mosley could walk. Still CAnelo's wins are better than losing to everyone who wasn't a crippled old gimp in the past 6 years, well he did beat Delvin....
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Oh Angulo was shot to **** but Martinez wasn't..... more denial I see.
     
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  3. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're saying Cotto's resume is weak, but it's not like Canelo's resume is stellar either.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm saying his recent resume is weak his 140 resume isn't. And for his age Canelo has more impressive wins than Cotto had by 24, in fact Canelo has almost caught up to Miguel in total number of matches, at 24.
     
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  5. Torreno93

    Torreno93 Member Full Member

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    Give Canelo credit. They say he has been protected. Tell me who tf did Cotton fight at age 24? Lovemore Ndou?
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Miguel Cotto's Notable Matches by 24
    Randall Bailey
    Lovemore N'Dou
    Carlos Maussa
    Rocky Martinez
    Victoriano Sosa
    Joel Perez
    Demetrio Ceballos
    Justin Juuko
    Kelson Pinto


    Canelo's Notable Matches by 24
    Erislandy Lara
    Alfredo Angulo
    Austin Trout
    Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Shane Mosley
    Miguel Vasquez
    Luciano Cuello
    Matthew Hatton
    Kermit Cintron
    Alfonso Gomez
    Josesito Lopez
    Ryan Rhodes
    Lovemore N'Dou
    Carlos Baldomir
    Lanardo Tyner
    Jose Miguel Cotto
     
    CST80, Jan 13, 2015
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  7. Torreno93

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    Fun fact Cotto fought Mosley when Cotto was 27 and Mosley 36

    But when Canelo at age 24 fights Cotto at 34 people are gonna cry saying Cotto was shot and an old man

    But give Cotto more credit for beating an older Mosley at 36 at the time and being more into his prime at age 27


    Cotto didn't even fought Paulie until he was 26.


    But no Canelo is protected! SMh


    Canelo already has been in tuffer wars than 24 year old Cotto
     
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  8. Torreno93

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    Plus a 27 year old Canelo would destroy a 36 year old Cotto
     
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  9. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Not even close:nut:!::-(

    :smoke
     
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  10. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes put * next to Cotto's wins but none for Canelo's wins. Anyone can poke at resumes.
     
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  11. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Reader's Digest version!!!


    Opie is getting starched!!!
     
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  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Because they were stoppages cause by injuries most of which were pre existing, Canelo has had close fights but none because their opponent broke his wrist or knee tore.
     
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  13. kirk

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    :good

    Thanks for the response man. I look forward to the fight, that's for sure. I hope it gets made.
     
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  14. kirk

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    Indeed.

    But right now, if I had to bet, I think he will fall short of Cotto's career.

    I don't see Canelo having a bright future for too much longer, the Cotto fight imo is the beginning of the end (not that I think he will necessarily lose to Cotto)

    But I see him fizzling out n retiring early or if he fights to his 30's, taking many more L's than Cotto has along the way. Reason being is once he steps up to real middleweights, I think the Canelo train comes to an end. I don't see him beating top middleweights, hes just not good enough, imo.... and seeing as how his days at 154 are coming to an end very soon (if they haven't already) I don't see his future success giving him the wins he will need to surpass Cotto.

    We will see though! He has been improving, so maybe that continues and he proves me wrong.


    One thing I like about Canelo, and has me rooting for him, is he is throwback in a sense, and represents boxers the way they should be represented, all in the sense that he is there to fight it out who is the best, he doesn't shy away from challenges, hes not looking for the path of least resistance, like 90% of the top fighters today.
     
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  15. non-stop

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    same story all the time. bunch of cotto haters tlking how bad hes going to lose just like martinez. im biased too and dont like canelo and he lost to trout and lara if not at least drew but no clear wins. here it goes again no one points out and gives props to the older, smaller, past prime cotto thats going to give a younger bigger in there prime kid like canelo. im going for cotto and i hope he drops him and suprise a lot of ppl. but we know bias ppl will come up with some other lame excuse and try to discredit a cotto win yet again.

    and please dont even compare the resume. cotto SH!TS on canelo in the argument. better do some research and see how cotto move up the ranks when he was young.
     
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