Duràn(Moore beatdown) vs McCallum (super welterweight)

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  1. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This...is one of the few fights I don't bet Duràn would've won if I was forced to, McCallum was literally a twin,bigger Duràn at the time,the only thing Duràn had ahead of McCallum was experience...
    What do you think?
     
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  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    McCallum on points, he’s just too good of a Super Welterweight, Duran would be pushed back and McCallum would be able to dictate the fight and win on work rate, it’d be competitive, but McCallum would be the deserved winner.
     
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  3. mcvey

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    McCallum on points,his body attack would slow Duran down.
     
  4. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah,he was simply just Duràn's nightmare,7-5 clear win for McCallum.
     
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  5. Fireman Fred

    Fireman Fred Active Member Full Member

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    McCallum is still upset this fight never happen when Duran took on Hearns instead of Mikethen the number 1 contender for Duran´s crown.

    This would have been over 15. McCallum still wasn´t the finished article but was too young and fast for Duran.

    Probably be competive over the 1st 5 rounds but McCallum would take over with his precise body shots and uppercuts.

    The Body Snatcher would take a well deserved unanimous decision and who knows might get a unification fight with a peak Hearns.

    Imagine what a great fight that would have been. Personally, I think Hearns was nigh unbeateable at light-middle but McCallum at his best would one of the few fighters he might best him.
     
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  6. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah,kinda like that...even though I'm a Duràn fan I do acknowledge,these tall guys like McCallum were able to trap him.
     
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  7. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No way Duran beats McCallum. He can't hurt him or outwork/outbox him.
     
  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    McCallum by decision and at times I can see him really hurting Duran.
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Duran can have a close fight vs Hagler at Middleweight he can certainly have a very close fight vs a green McCallum.

    What people are not taking into account is that this fight would be taking place in 1984 McCallum had only had barely over 20 professional fights at the time and was still a bit green.

    This would be a highly competitive chess match that could go either way quite honestly.
     
  10. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If anyone can overcome this mismatch it’s the reputation of Durán. McCallum & it never looks in doubt.
     
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  11. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just because McCallum had only 20 fights at that point doesn't make him "green". He was a 240-10 international amateur and was not "green" at all. Duran was wildly inconsistent and well above his natural weight. By Duran's own admission he was blowing up to 200 pounds between fights and drinking/drugging while McCallum smashing everyone in the gym and earning his rep as a world beater.

    How old are you Dynamicpuncher? You seen to mix the timeliness up for certain fighters. Just curious. Post 84' Duran never beat another hall of fame fighter and his best wins was over the wildly inconsistent Barkley and the tough but limited Jorge Castro. McCallum was just entering into his greatness.
     
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  12. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    McCallum's professional career at that time was not exactly turning heads he had just beaten Sean Mannion ? Fighting Duran would've been a major step up in competition for McCallum that's what I mean in terms of being green.

    I'm 25 but I don't think my age is the issue here I'm very clued up on both fighters and I've watched pretty much all of their notable fights that are available.

    Duran vs McCallum would've been a highly competitive tactical match up and I don't see any evidence that McCallum would beat Duran handily. The Duran who destroyed Moore and had a competitive fight vs Hagler would've been more than a match for McCallum.
     
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  13. AwardedSteak863

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    What you are missing is at the time, McCallum was well known by everyone in boxing. He was working with Manny Steward who was the hot trainer at the time and Kronk was in it's glory years. McCallum was the up and coming that nobody wanted to fight. Again, being Jamaican, he was well traveled and just as feared in the New York gyms as Kronk. Literally every trainer wanted to work with him which is why when he left Manny, he had his pick and went with the Duva's and then Eddie Futch. He was not "green" at all.

    Some of you younger fellows just look at records and nothing else. 30 years from now some kid will say Benavidez is green and Canelo would have destroyed him when the reality is Canelo is now 34 and wants no part of a young lion like Benavidez who is still an ascending fighter. Back to the fight at hand, we are talking about a fat coked up Duran that is several weighclasses over his natural weight and a young, nearly prime McCallum that was about to go on a run of destroying other tough fighters that were being avoided by the fab four.
     
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  14. Dynamicpuncher

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    McCallum was not a big name at the time and this quote from @Saintpat says it all.

    "Yeah, when Duran chose to fight Hearns it put McCallum up for the vacant WBA super middleweight title vs. Sean Mannion. Bob Arum won the purse bid and put it on the undercard of Hagler-Hamsho. McCallum was so in demand that the winning purse bid was, iirc, $70K.

    As for your 2nd quote you should know me better than that i do my research in regards to era's especially when if it's an era i have an interest in. I read old posts on this forum to learn stuff i also read articles online to clue myself on what was going on in particular era.

    As i said McCallum fighting Duran at that time would've been a huge step up in class for McCallum if you are pitting a realistic timeline of when they actually could've fought. If you are however pitting them up in a fantasy scenario where you could have the very best version of McCallum vs the very best version of Duran then that changes things however.
     
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  15. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duran is too small. McCallum is a natural 154. I’m not even convinced Duran would go the distance in a 15 round fight. That body attack might break Duran down. McCallum did have a 91% KO ratio before moving up to 160. I got McCallum with a clear points win or late stoppage.