Duran (Buchanan) easily beats mayweather

Wow. One doesn't fight 15 hard rds with premier welterweight and middleweight of that era and not be in shape. How many 15 rd fights have MayweatherJr had again?

 

I hear all these MayweatherJr fans say he beats Duran. But how does he do it? I hear he Boxes all the time. But anyone who gets into a boxing ring and using only his or her fist as their primary weapons is Boxing. I'm looking for WHAT would be his game plan against say Montreal Duran or Ray Lampkin Duran. Counter punching? But can't really do that against a fighter with his head in your chest. On the toes, sticking and moving? Sounds good, but Mayweather jr wasn't that type of fighter, really, even at the lighter weights. Infighting? Really? See the Castillo and Maidana fights for the answer, please remember those two fighter are not in the same universe as far as infighting and effective pressure is concerned as Duran. Mayweather jr uses a perfectly thrown lead right hand. But Duran was almost impossible to hit cleanly with combination punches much less pot shotting. Outside Hearns very few was able to cleanly get to Duran with power shots( And his biggest issue with Hearns was height and reach forced Duran to stand almost straight up) Shoulder rolling works great against one deminsional head hunters, but Duran knew how to diversify his attack. Attack, and had a excellent body attack( Kill the body, the head will follow) If Mayweather fought through the late 70's early 80's he would be his father. ( whom he looks just like in the boxing ring) He would be a contender. Nothing more.

 

Mayweather hasn't one victory on his ledger over an elite opponent in his prime, let alone a consensus Top-10 ATG.
I can't imagine Mayweather does well in the cauldron Duran creates in there.
Duran wins; not easily (even though he might make it look that way).

 

Haha keep lying to yourselves guys lmao... Mayweather beats duran and would beat chavez even easier

 

Who's lying?

 

It is not like it happened once. The problem is Duran was always out of shape when he fought great fighters. Somehow he didn't train for the great ones and trained for the less great. Odd as it sounds. Sounds like excuses as always did.

 

Great post with an intelligent and logical analysis. Although I don't agree with the end of the post.

 

Mayweather had better longevity and was far more consistent, but it's hard to pick against Duran at 135, especially considering how Floyd seemed to get better gong up in weight and adapting his style. Duran is the sort of fighter Mayweather would have likely met a few years later after his prime and soundly outboxed, but Duran in his prime isn't getting beat in a weight class that Mayweather wasn't in his prime.

 

Do you really mean that or are you just exaggerating because of the way some posters are underselling Duran in this thread? The rest of your post was excellent, but it's hard to take it seriously with a ludicrous statement like that at the end

 

He also never fought anyone REMOTELY as good as Leonard, Hearns or Hagler, the latter 2 Duran fought when he was post prime, and they were CLEARLY bigger than Duran. Jesus, I know Mayweather was past his best against Maidana in their 1st fight, but there are many that believe May lost that fight.

 

FM never fought anyone who came anywhere near prime RD and that was 135 Duran up to Montreal Duran. Duran would have pressured him and ripped his body relentlessly. He was one of the best in fighters with under rated boxing and defense skills. FM was a great fighter but never fought another great fighter in his prime and correct weight division. Great fighters always look good against over matched opponents. Most consider Corrales his best win but come on how good was Corrales? He wouldn't make the top 15 of lws. Duran was top 10 pfp. Corrales wanted the fight at 135 and had to lose 30 lbs in 3 weeks. I know he fought at 130 after FM but before that fight was working as a chef and over eating. He hired a dietitian after that fight and was able to make 130 more easily. If that was his signature win he would have no chance against Duran at 135.

 

Duran did that is guys gave him that but speed was the equalizer. I cannot type well because I lost my glasses. so if I mistype forgive me for that. I can see mostly what I write. Duran was a great fighter, but his weakness was someone fighting a boxers fight and using speed and not giving him the range.. It was a huge weakness more than most greats in someway.. When he fought elite speed he lost in a big way. And yes great fighters always look great against overmatched, and many times Duran fought overmatched guys. He was great but his ceiling was fast guys, and coincidentally he fought better guys when he moved up. so he has the excuse it was moving up which was the reason, but I think a little of the moving up in class hurt him. He was a big enough guy who always handled weight well more than most greats moving up.. Hearns and Leonard handled it well also. bUt Hearns and Duran handled moving up well because they still could punch.

 

Juan Manuel Marquez is easily on the level of Hearns.

 

No, he is below Hearns level. He never beat the guys Hearns did.. Not even close. Not in my mind anyway.

 

Hearns consistently lost his biggest fights the win over Pacquiao is bigger than anything on Hearns resume.