Duran cheating? Panama Lewis?

If Duran's gloves had been enhanced in Montreal no way Sugar would have lasted 15 rounds without being KO'd or seriously injured or hospitalized, I'm sure Dundee was in Durans room before the fight watching very closely.
The reason Duran beat Moore so easily is because Davey was so green and lacked experience, he wasn't ready for someone as seasoned as Duran.

 

Yea I know he was no saint, I watched the Buchanan fight twice and he should have been dq'd for that obvious intentional low blow to kens nuts, that was total bs, Duran seemed to always be angry, and vile with people, after watching no mad it's glad to see that he has mellowed with age.

 

I'm not sure if this is helpful or not, but Dempsey was also accused of using plaster of Paris in his gloves when he gave Willard the beating of his life and there was enough questions surrounding this rumour that they actually tested to see if this was even possible, turns out it's not because plaster is brittle and when it breaks you basically end up jabbing it into your own hand causing both cuts and an enormous amount of pain to yourself, not your opponent.

Here's a brief write up on this

The Willard-Dempsey fight became the subject of controversy in 1964, when Dempsey's former manager, Jack Kearns—who, by this time, had fallen out with Dempsey—claimed that he had "loaded" the boxer's gloves with Plaster of Paris. The "loaded glove" theory held some credence because of the seemingly extraordinary amount of damage Dempsey did to Willard's face. However, film evidence revealed Willard inspecting Dempsey's gloves before the fight, making it highly improbable that the fighter could have cheated.



I read this on Dempsey's bio called "A flame of pure fire."

Now that doesn't mean padding couldn't be removed or wrapping done in a manner that's illegal, but I think the idea that someone can use plaster of Paris to harden their fists has been disproven.

 

Duran didn't NEED to have illegal wraps to hurt fighters with his punches, his hands of stone nickname was long established.

Hagler was another guy who wasn't a " murderous " puncher but plenty of his opponents will tell you that everything he landed hurt like f**k.

 

They're probably all cheating f*cks !

 

Davey had some teeth problems, if not for that, he would have given Duran some problems.

 

Dundee's original claim to fame was his hand wrapping skill. That is how he got a job in Basilio's corner There are limits to how much tape can be used to wrap hands, and it is pretty minimal. The tape is how you can really pack the wraps and that is why there is a limit. 24 inches sticks in my head as the limit, though I'm sure that varies from place to place.
Mathew Hilton did not like to fight in Montreal because of the limits they put on the amount of tape used. After he beat Buster Drayton there, I remember reading, they had to wait a week to x-ray his hands to see if they were broken. For the swelling to go down.

 

Was Lewis in Duran"s corner for the second fight? Would Duran had opeted out in the 8th, assuming the stomach cramp excuse is ligit. If he had plaster in his gloves and able to hurt Leonard? Rember that even though Leonard was winning the first 6 rounds were some what close. It wasn't till the seventh that Leonard started to seprate himself from Duran. I had to raise an eyebrow when I saw Lewis being interviewed, but I'd supect that Arcel or Brown would have done the hand wrapings?

 

LEWIS WAS NOT IN DURAN'S corner for Moore. He was long gone from his corner. he was just a bucket boy in Duran"s prime. for Arcel and Brown. Luis Spada was Duran"s trainor in 83

 

Duran did lose to Benitez but that was more of a case of Wilfredo being a master boxer as his peak. Duran did hurt Benitez in that fight pretty good as one point. He just couldnt get off at that point against a lighteing quick Benitez.

 

People have to realize that if someone had loaded gloves like Luis Resto did over the course of 12 rounds they could kill the opponent, if clean fighters send opponents to the hospital just imagine what they would do if they had loaded gloves. This is why I don't think Margarito cheated either, yes he had Cotto beat up but so did, Pacquiao, Clottey and even Mayweather bruised him up a bit. I remember reading that on the Luis Resto case he ruined his opponent so bad he was never the same mentally

 

Ray Arcel and Freddie Brown were honest guys and their reps were everything. Ray and Freddie were on the level, old school guys, you could sneak in a lace or a low blow if you did not get caught but loaded gloves they would never condone

 

Agree. Ray Arcel was class.