Duran Had A Party In His Dressing Room After The 2nd Leonard Fight

This is what I mean. Sluggish? He was young and he trained. If GGG came out with an excuse he didn't train for Canelo now. would people buy it for the 2nd fight? Canelo beat a sluggish GGG and doesn't that diminish Canelo? No one would buy that and no one should buy Duran's excuse. And later fights against Hearns and Benitez show Duran could not deal with elite speed and basically skills.

 

No, you're delusional, it has nothing to do with how we interrupt the word. The definition of Elite is clear, and SRL of Montreal matches such a definition. We can argue that he got better after or wasn't peak, but he was unquestionably elite at that point in time.

 

I don't recall GGG quitting for no reason whatsoever after six rounds of non action. If he did people would probably be all over this forum yelling fake. Trained? It's been well documented throughout this thread that Duran wasn't doing much of that. He just made weight. And he still won two or three rounds off Leonard. Hagler, Hearns and Benitez all beat Duran more convincingly without controversy, and didn't lose to him either...

 

I don't think he stood out as elite if the term is that higher level until he could put it all together, whether that is mentally and physically. And Ray knew after that fight that he fought Duran's fight, and still said I almost beat that man at his own game.

 

Duran never trained after he lost a fight and needed an excuse. I don't think a professional like Duran should be given that excuse. If he didn't train for Ray or the other elites he fought, then he might have quit before the fight happened knowing he could not win. The didn't train excuse then hurt Duran because he never knocked out an elite fighter, and he beat Ray when Ray was still green. Did he come close to beating Ray after the first fight?

 

Loads of fighters don't always train properly. It's not exactly a novel phenomenon. Like I said Duran's lack of preparation for the second fight is well documented. It seems you're just determined to ignore it, just like your contention that a 27-0 24 year old reigning world champion and before that Olympic gold medalist was "green" going into their first fight. You might as well say Duran was shopworn seeing as going in he'd already had nearly twice as many fights as Leonard would finish his career with. What was that about excuses?

 

Lolololol!!!!! Isn't it great!

 

Losing 13lb in around a month is **** easy.

 

Well seeing as though the first fight was very close and he was well behind in the second fight anyway why bother quitting? Why just not lose on points like you were going to anyway?

 

At the time of Duran's retirement, the scorecards were: 66-68 | 66-68 | 66-67

Had he been fit and continued as normal - yeah - Duran had a real mountain to climb, didn't he?

 

Why would he have a mountain to climb if he intended to lose! Why quit and go through a lifetime of controversy. Why not just lose the fight in a close bout and then avenge the defeat? Oh wait, he tried that one and lost the rubber match.......

 

No, it’s really not well documented at all. Quite the opposite.

 

The forum wouldn't be the forum if this subject didn't come up once a month … I thought I repeated myself ,,, lol. but to stick to the OP, the party started long before the dressing room in NYC and kept on a going

 

The post you just quoted is completely consistent with everything I’ve been saying. This is like the Twilight Zone! Duran put on a lot of weight, like he often did, had a very good training camp (after a slow start), and was in tip top shape heading into the fight. There was absolutely nothing out of the norm here. Nobody was concerned about Duran. He looked amazing in the public workouts in New Orleans.

I swear the first two Duran-Leonard fights are subject to more exaggerations, myths, and after-the-fact excuses than any two fight series in boxing history. The lengths that Duran’s most passionate admirers will go to to avoid having to deal with inconvenient facts is astonishing. If Duran hadn't needed to come up with more convincing excuses to save face with the public and to salvage his big-fight career, the narrative today would be completely different. Instead, Duran’s fans latch onto the excuses that let them preserve their image of Duran as unbeatable at his best.They imagine that everyone was lying about everything—they even imagine motives for the apparently extremely dishonest Arcel and Brown to continue lying after the fight. They start dismissing all journalistic reports to the contrary as “fake news,”like a bunch of brainwashedTrump supporters. and they even come up with fan fiction type excuses, like the one where the fight was suddenly made on less than two month’s notice because someone (the exact person always changes) saw a 200-lb Duran either floating around in a pool or drinking in an alley months after the first fight. As far as I can tell, it’s all fiction.

People are only so gullible about this stuff because of motivated reasoning. They love Duran and buy into all the bs myths about his “savagery” and machismo. They really, really want to believe that there must have been extraordinary circumstances for Ray Leonard to embarrass to the point of disgracing himself and quitting. They want to believe that the first fight was the only one that really showed how good each fighter really was (and they exaggerate how Duran dominantly performed in the first fight).

 

Where? Can you post it or send me a link?