Duran in today's welterweight scene?

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  1. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    How would he do against:

    Floyd
    Cotto
    Williams
    Mosley
    Margarito
    Judah
    Cintron
    Clottey

    and whoever else?
     
  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    He beats them all. I would be extremely confident picking him over Floyd, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, and Margarito.
     
  3. Keihule

    Keihule Active Member Full Member

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    Hands of Stone would be knocking alot of people out, thats for sure.
     
  4. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not fair to tell yet, paul williams might do it, i mean who knows in the next 2-3 years he might turn out to be a really good fighter. Was roberto duran an atg back in 1973, **** no he wasnt, give paul williams time to grow as a fighter.
     
  5. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he's losing 5 or 6 rounds to Margarito he's not beating Roberto Duran. Paul might go on to improve, but as of right now, Duran of Montreal (and even of New Orleans) would wax him.

    Oh and to answer the thread question, Duran easily beats any welterweight today.
     
  6. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    He'd decimate them all.
    Floyd would be a good fight, but he'd win, probably by KO.

    The guys today are good, but not on the level of some of the old timer greats, such as Duran.
     
  7. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He'll lose half the fights. Duran at welterweight was very far from unbeatable, including Duran the night he won over Leonard.
     
  8. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Give us a break.
     
  9. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    H'd beat them all, IMO, although PBF does have the style to keep him at bay and frustrate him. Of all the fights, this is the one that could go either way.
     
  10. Lobotomy

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    The Duran of Montreal, who also handled Palomino easily, charged through Nsubuga's crisp uppercuts, dominated rugged, defensively minded southpaw Adolfo Viruet, shut out the then streaking and peaking, super experienced, 26 year old Jimmy Heair (who had only been stopped once in 90 fights, on a cut in Mexico) and dropped Monroe Brooks for the count with a single left hook to the body (while Brooks was in his prime), would run roughshod over today's welterweights.

    Duran/Nsubuga is an overlooked achievement in Roberto's resume. Stonehands versus Stoneface. Nsubuga had a very distinguished amateur career. Duran embarrassed himself by being out of shape against Zeferino Gonzalez, overweight at 149 pounds for the main event of a telecast card in which the preliminary bout featured Ray Leonard's stunning annihilation of Andy Price. For his next appearance with Nsubuga, he vowed to show that he was absolutely a match for Ray. Nsubuga was very fast and very tough. Driven into the corners repeatedly by Duran's relentless rushes, Joseph kept bouncing back to rip his tremendous uppercuts with both hands. Roberto actually appeared to enjoy getting hit, and came on even stronger with that wolfish leer across his face. (He looked an awful lot like Pryor in this one.) It became obvious early that it was just a matter of time before Nsubuga crumbled, but not before the Ugandan impressed with his feisty, spirited resistance.

    Only world title challengers and champions ever defeated Monroe Brooks. Nobody other than Duran was ever able to get a referee to count to ten over his stricken form. Many wondered if Roberto would be able to carry his power up to a higher weight class, and his bodyshot knockout of Brooks answered the question definitively.

    As a welterweight in prime condition, Duran may have been invincible. (I do not believe Hearns would have beaten the Montreal Duran at WW, and thought he needed to challenge Tommy for a unification bout to stay properly motivated and focused. Duran would have been very mindful of the power Hearns displayed against Cuevas. He would have applied similar caution and concentration in dealing with Hearns to that which SRL did utilize in 1981. But I feel very strongly that Duran should have been the one to unify the WW titles in late 1980 or early 1981. Based upon what a one shouldered Randy Shields had to say about taking Hearns into deep water at the time, Tommy probably would have missed early and crumbled late in facing a motivated and alert Duran.)
     
  11. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    It is hard for me to objective here cause Duran was favorite fighter. If Duran chooses to he beats them all. If he slacks off someone like Williams mightbe able to beat him by decision. Cotto and Margarito would be taylor made cause they like to stay in the pocket and brawl. That would be suicide against Duran. PBF obviously would be the most difficult. I think once he engaged Duran he would realize this isno Ricky Hatton and he would just be defensive and try to survive. Duran by UD against PBF. Williams, with his huge wingspan and Hearns-like qualities could possibly be a problem for Cholo.
     
  12. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    I'd rather see him at his natural weight.
     
  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Duran is a great great fighter but todays 147lbers are truly excellent fighters and the smaller Duran would surely pick up losses. Here are his chances against todays fighters IMO:

    Mayweather - 40% chance. Mayweather is a slight favourate with a better defense, forcing errors, staying out of range and being near impossible to lay a clean glove on. Duran also had problems when a man stayed out of range and proved too slippy with too much speed. Mayweather embodies all of this. However Duran himself is excellent foil for Mayweather with his skillfull workrate.

    MAYWEATHER WINS AN SD AND THE FANS ARE SPLIT ON THE DECISION SOME CALLING ROBBERY. Mayweather lands the much cleaner punches. Duran throws much punches however he rarely lands clean and Mayweather is landing the flusher more showy shots. Duran comments that Mayweather strength and power suprised him. Both fighters claim they won

    Cotto - 60% Duran is the superior boxer and technician but Cotto has the skills, power, arsenal to make this very close

    Old Mosley - 60% Duran is superior but Mosleys speed could cause problems

    Williams - 40% Williams is a freak and I dont like Durans chances here because of the style and reach/height advantage

    Margarito - 70% Duran would be fave to outbox this huge Welter but Margarito is HUGE at the weight and his size and workrate could prove no easy task for Duran

    Cintron - 80% Cintron could do to Duran what Hearns did because he is a brutal puncher but Duran should be too good for him

    I doubt Duran stops any of the above except perhaps Cintron
     
  14. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i had that fight like 9-3 for williams a clear win IMO. Hes still green anyways, im sure after he beats quintana and cotto, hell be top 5 p4p and will get more respect. Im sure after duran lost to de jesus in 72, everyone was saying canzoneri, benny leonard and joe gans would school this kid, its the same ****.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I had it wider than 7-5, more like 9-3.

    Margarito is 5-11 and weighs 160 ripped on fight night. Duran is 5-7 and would weigh a bit around 150 on fight night. Margarito is much more significantly imposing than Duran and has decent level skills of his own despite being no Duran.

    Anyway I could turn it round and say no one who loses to Kirkland Laing would beat Williams.