Duran (Montreal) vs. Hearns (SRL 1)

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  1. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    IN my opinion 147 wasn't a good weight for Hearns, he was definitely the much weaker man in the late rounds against Leonard which led to his downfall, and those long skinny ribs would be a huge target for Duran, who would attack like a lion on meat, I think Hearns was much more effective at 154-160, he had to boil down to get to 147, which would leave him weaker than Duran...

    Can't image why Duran would be intimidated by Hearns,:huh he wasn't the least bit afraid of Hagler, and Leonard who in my opinion are both physically superior to Hearns...

    Hagler to me was a helluva lot more intimidating than Hearns, just look at them....
     
  2. FastHands(beeb)

    FastHands(beeb) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    SS66 cheers for replying fella.

    At the time, 147 was not considered a bad weight for Hearns, he had looked awesome in most fights prior to SRL & looked pretty good for the most part against SRL in 81.

    Re Duran being intimidated by Hearns, my understanding is that Duran was not intimidated by Hearns per se, but at least partly from the pov of Hearns' sheer physical size and dimensions; iirc Steward's point was that Duran was intimidated by the sheer stylistic difficulties Hearns size, reach, range and power represented to Duran.

    I understand that Steward's view was that Duran understood this, hence his apprehension toward Hearns.

    Please don't shoot the messenger boy...
     
  3. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duran wrecks Hearns, it's all on you tube if yer want to see the comparison, just go watch Leonard/Hearns 1 & skip to round 6 when SRL decides to stop posing & just walked Tommy down & smacked him all over the ring, the bell saves Hearns. Similar treatment awaited Hearns from Duran, only it would have been from the 1st ring 'a ding.
     
  4. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns did not have a weak jaw. he didn't have great stamina, but he took Hagler and Leonards best punches.
     
  5. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thomas Hearns always destroys Roberto Duran. I think he does it in about 3 or 4 in 1980. Hearns was too fast for Duran. Duran was overrated and Hearns was underrated because of losing to Leonard and Hagler.. Losing to Hagler in his prime hurt him, but he always beats Duran. Duran never fought a guy with that speed and power ever, and when he did he crashed face first.
     
  6. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    somehow . Duran didn't look too much shorter than Hagler and near his size when he got in the ring with him. Hearn was too fast for Duran. Hearns really should have beaten Hagler by knockout. He broke his hand and that took away his best punch. Had he not broken his hand, I am not sure hagler would have taken too many of them. Hearns really wanted that rematch and Hagler didnt. Hagler knew what he would have to take again if he fought Hearns. Duran never asked for a rematch to Hearns. No one really does. Why wouldn't Duran ask for a rematch to Hearns in 1989? He had it if he wanted it?
     
  7. Hookie

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    Hearns by KO, maybe Duran makes it to the 3rd round this time?
     
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  8. Hookie

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    They did both stop Hearns though.

    Anyway, Hearns was great, definitely one of my favorites but I don't know if he could have ever defeated Hagler. I would have liked it if he would have fought Hagler again though.
     
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  9. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both Leonard and Hagler were superior to Hearns, Leonard stopped Hearns, and Hearns couldn't stop Leonard...
    Leonard was stopped only once in his career his last fight at 41 years old...
    Hearns was stopped 4 friggin times...

    There was no way in hell, spaghetti legs Hearns could ever beat Hagler, Marvin could take Hearns punch, but obviously not vice versa, Hearns would have been carried across the ring again, the reason Hearns broke his hand is because Haglers head was made of concrete..

    Hagler was physically superior to Hearns in every which way, look at Haglers legs, chest , shoulders, arms, neck, he was a tank and was built for combat, thats why he was never stopped, i wished they would have had a rematch it would have been easy money for me..
     
  10. fists of fury

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    Duran has a much better shot here than at 154. Tommy was draining like crazy to get to 147 and at this weight it's a fairer matchup, at least from Duran's perspective.

    Obviously the best chance for Duran would be to get under those long arms and deny Hearns leverage and punching room. 147 Duran was fast, energetic and agile. I think he'd have some success, but how much is hard to say.

    Hearns was a very good boxer (excellent boxer) who moved well and had that crushing power to dissuade foes from getting too excitable. I don't see the blowout that we had at 154, no way.
     
  11. fists of fury

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    Duran did seem to be at least wary of Hearns. He never seemed that comfortable in Hearns' presence and I recall (as told by someone here, forget who) and also read (maybe in Four Kings, hard to remember) of an incident where they met at a fight, and Duran was all ****y and brash, acting it up with folk, until Tommy came along and started mischievously playing around with a hat Duran was wearing.
    Duran (apparently) felt uncomfortable when Hearns showed up.
     
  12. fists of fury

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    Not true. There was a rematch in talks scheduled for September of '87. Leonard came along and ruined those plans though.
     
  13. JudgeDredd

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    I believe the Hagler v Mugabi & Hearns v Shuler? on the same bill was the taster for the re-match.
     
  14. TBooze

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    Yes the plan was to showcase both of them in preparation for a rematch.

    But his sugarness decides to comeback, and Hagler always wanted that bout...