That sounds fair to me......... Duran did have good power at 154 / 160 cuz he did stagger Moore good in round 2, and he did wobble Barkley rather well in round 1 of their epic classic........ Duran was capable of hurting / stunning a mutha' at the higher weights, but his overall power was indeed NOT concussive...... Good call...... :good:thumbsup MR.BILL:hat
I was in the Garden that night and for action fights, it was one of the best cards I've ever attended. Duran-Moore, resto-Collins (a great fight and at the time noone in the crowd knew what the ruckus after the fight was about) and Hatcher-Escalera 2 that was awesome and followed by a wild victory dance after Alfredo was awarded an unfair dec. I thought in a great fight. What a night! And capped by the great Duran shutting bigmouth Moore up.:rasta
:happy I was 16 and getting out of my sophmore year in high school when Duran mugged Moore at "The Garden" in New York....... I was so stoked....... :rasta MR.BILL
It was a great night and it's good to see someone on the forum who actually lived thru that era and saw the fights then, instead of being 20 years old or younger now and telling people who lived thru it what it was like. that is the reason I never post hardly anymore. it's a waste of time when you went to the fights all thru the 70's and 80's, but some dink who just watched youtube and never lived thru it is considered an expert and puts down those who have the actually experince of seeing these great fighters from the era live and most times in person:hat. Those that didn't live thru it will never understand what it was like when Duran climbed back to the top. Remember the interview w/ Moore on CBS the Sunday before the fight (which was on a thursday night)? He said, "I might lose, but not to him". Oh. how wrong he was! It's terrible what happened to Moore later, but he got what was coming to him on June 16th.
Well said mate:good These are my thoughts also & why i'am a little bit more than obtuse in my responces to some of the dicks on here. I'll never ever forget hearing the result at daybreak on the 17th June, i was unemployed at the time along with 4 million other Maggie Thatcher rejects, i could'nt sleep a wink that night as i'd bet the whole 2 week social security cheque £84.60p/$130.00 on Roberto at 4/1. I'am not a gambler but i just went & did it without telling the missis & with one 18 month old & the misses 6 months pregnant i was filling my pants, i ran down to the newsagents at the crack of dawn & sifted through the morning papers & not a word until i hit the last one called the Daily Express & in just a few paragraphs it said; DURAN'S BACK WITH A CRASH!! BANG!!WALLOP!!! I did'nt even have the money to buy the paper so i just tore the page out & told the owner i'd pay him later or **** off, the euphoria i felt at Duran winning i've never felt since on a level like that. It was'nt about getting myself out of the **** with the wager but more so at seeing him climb back up boxings mt olympus & prove all the doubters wrong. NO ONE back then ever put duran down, he was a cult figure in the boxing world regardless of New Orleans & like you i really get pissed off with a load of the chancers on here who just know ****-all about what it was like back then & what it was all about on the day to day scene with regard to boxings outlook & the mindset of the day, yer can't get it from a book or video & what with some of these pricks saying Davey Moore was just average, wankers the lot of them!!! Just 2 governing bodies back then WBA/WBC & yer had to be good to be a champ, Yeh!! All the "haha hehe" brigade thought Roberto was washed up & he'd be a name scalp on Moore's belt. **** me!! how wrong does it get
Moore had some of the best offensive skills for a fighter with barely double-digits bouts i've ever seen at these weights.He was a real talent, the thing that annoys me is tha ayala crew that just seem to assume Moore would have been swept aside with little difficulty when dreaming about him going on to fight Duran, hagler etc..
us true Duran fans never gave up on him and were rewarded greatly. Then again against Barkley on a night of astonishment after the previous 6 years. I saw Duran live against Viruet in Philly, Bizarro in Erie, Gonzales in Cleveland and Moore in New York and EVERY time was a pleasure, but June 16th was a night of redemption for Duran and ALL his fans. Say what they will about the man, but he had the best fans of any fighter I ever saw, and that includes Ali. Have a good day!:thumbsup
I was just about to say about YOU BEING THERE ON THE 16th June 1983, jeezus, it's a great pleasure to talk to someone who actually expereanced that incredible night/atmosphereD A different fight crown back then:yep Never in the history of boxing has one man had such a cult GLOBAL following & it increased even more when the global masses watched him challange the Middleweight Superbeast who was Marvin Hagler. When i went to Vegas in 89 for the 3rd leonard fight i met Germans/Russians/Chinese/Japs/Aussie's/South African's, Arabs, Jews, French, Finn's, you name it they all flew into Vegas to support Duran, truly incredible & 50% never had tickets as they'd come to watch it on the big screen, talk about solidarity:deal Happy days!!!
I agree, he was being touted as the next SRL, all the scribes had him earmarked for greatness, you don't win a title like he did & defend it by being a rank novice to the sport unlike today what with all the ABC title's ect. He had a top background from the amateurs/Golden gloves champ ect & it all looked upwards. But what a disaster for him in thinking that Duran was washed up, who could blame him after seein Duran waddle about in the Laing/Battan fights. I remember Moore commenting after he watched Duran hammer Cuevas, "Was Duran that good or Ceuvas that bad" well the poor **** got his answer on the 16th june 1983:bbb Yeh!! as regard to ayala who i've never ever rated, Moore would have KO'd him in 8, ayala certainly ai'nt no duran.
Moore in 1982 or '83 would NOT have been easy pickens for Ayala to feast on. Infact, I'm not so sure that Ayala could have beaten Moore at 154 pounds during that time frame...... MR.BILL
That WAS an incredible night, but I found pretty much all the excitement and anticipation at the other Duran fights too. He just brought it out of people. The fight I would of loved to have been around during fight week would have been Montreal. That would have been something. But yeah, after 1982, the for Duran-Moore in the Garden was cool and VERY fullfilling.