duran v leonard greatness comparison.

What board is that which you post on? I joined another board many years ago, but lost my password and came to Eastside which has been a lot of fun for me. I forget the name of it.

I sort of get the idea that trolling is someone who sort of winds people up on a subject just for attention. But I really am not doing that. I do think Duran is great, but just not top 10. I always thought Ray was incredible. He is an odd fighter. Only 40 fights, but the guys he beat define him. Duran,Benitez,Hearns,Hagler. Those 4 guys all starting in different weight classes and with different styles and Ray beat them all. Even my favorite fighter Hearns could not do that. I have to give Ray credit.

 

Yes. Duran's win over 24 yr old Leonard was much better than Leonard's points win over sloppy leftover Hagler

Yees, Duran is a better lightweight than Leonard was a welter. More defenses, including rematches which was absent in Leonard fights

If anything, Leonard's career cannot compare with Duran's. Before moving up his record exceeded 60 wins against one loss. Leonard's entire career record was an average, non descript 36-3-1 and 35-4-1 by my account. Why is this question even being asked?

Peak for peak, Duran was more effective than Leonard. You can ask the contenders he laid out

Ray Leonard was just a runner

Duran's weight hopping iaccomplishments is also superior. Duran beating Leonard would be like Leonard beating Norris or Micheal Nunn

Leonard, all he has is a win over a dried up Hagler, analogous to Holmes beating same skill level Ali at the end of his career

and lalonde, that's just a joke. I would be embarassed to bring up his name were I a Leonard fan. His fans are that hard up

 

Even though beating Hagler, who was still a very good fighter in 87, is a great win and a fabulous achievement, I agree with you here.

Duran, a better Lightweight? I don't think that's true. I've seen a few of Duran's title defenses at 135lbs and he didn't always look stellar. I also think Leonard's high points excel Duran's at their respective best weights. Saying Duran was a greater Lightweight is a different statement altogether though.

Again, I'm not sure I agree. I'm willing to hear your reasoning though. Duran beating more contenders at his peak at 135lbs than Leonard did at 147lbs doesn't necessarily mean he was more effective, just that he was more active. Leonard, at his brilliant best, gets beat by very few Welterweights in the history of the sport. The same can be applied to Duran at Lightweight too, obviously.

Andy Price, Pete Ranzany, Wilfred Benitez, Thomas Hearns, Dave Green, and a whole host of other contenders Ray silenced all disagree with you.

Duran's "weight hopping" was incredible. Agreed.

Leonard has much more than that, Rooster. He outboxed and dominated Benitez at 147lbs, stopped Thomas Hearns, and made Duran quit in New Orleans. Ray also looked ridiculously good in whooping solid fighters like Ranzany and Price. Blitzed them.

 

& Leonard looked **** & laboured against Larry U.S. Bonds. Even Dundee screamed at him at the end of the 2nd round "You do know that you have a walking stiff in front of you!"

 

Leonard never was much for chasing an opponent no matter the skill level. probably why he was so easy for Norris to master

 

Duran-Gonzalez. Horrible.

 

Leonard was more fun to watch for me, but boxing-wise unquestionably Duran is higher

 

saw this kicking around on Twitter.

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damn.

type in boxing socialist

 

I am sorry, I meant if Duran is clear behind Leonard (Benny) how does DURAN (not Benny) stack up to Gans. I agree that Benny has it...at least by my rating.

 

I go back and forth between Duran and Gans for the 2 spot, and have never fully felt comfortable with that decision...Just wanted your take.

 

It's not just that he was smart, he had basically an economic hammer over everyone else and used it to his advantage. I guess that's smart, but if forced other to have to fight according to his time line, not theirs.