Duran .Vs. Buchanon II

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  1. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Duran gave an immediate rematch, would the result still have been the same? Very competitive bout until the low blow ended it.
     
  2. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Duran was clearly ahead when the fight was stopped. No reason to belive a rematch wouldn't have been the same IMO.
     
  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Duran only got better and smarter after that fight..Cant see it going any better for Kenny.
     
  4. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True, Duran was ahead, but not overwhelmingly. The fight was reasonably close still.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The fight was competitive, but not particularly close.
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Buchanon KO in 1 over Duran via testicle shot.

    And the neeeeew lightweight champion of the wooooorld!
     
  7. werety

    werety Active Member Full Member

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    I really don't see any reason for the rematch to be less competitive than the first one. Duran would only improve and the first fight wasn't very close anyways.
     
  8. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kenny may be my favorite all time boxer, but still I can't see him beating Duran in a rematch. The bout didn't seem that close to me and many other men would have been stopped by those big right hands that blasted Kenny. I have wondered what stategy Kens corner would devise for a rematch. In any regard Kenny didn't hit hard enough to keep Roberto away and couldn't do any where near enough of those spectaclar moves he was known for to beat Duran.
     
  9. teeto

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    Ditto.
     
  10. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duran would have a tough time vs the gritty Buchanan...he may have taken a close on much like the 1st before the foul
     
  11. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As perverse as it might sound, Buchanan might of faired a little better with the Improved Duran ? The Duran that Ken fought was very Wild, and this Wild approach certainly knocked Ken off Kilter, Duran was rapidly improving, becoming more Refined in his approach, Less rushed, this improved approach may also afford Ken what he didnt have first time around, a little more timeto compose and execute, Also he would be under no illusions that he was up against a Raw Kid that might have Stamina Problems over the Long Haul, Might get dishartened if he cant get the usual quick win, Might be fazed by the big occassion, unlike the first fight Ken would know that none of these assumptions would apply, and would therefore know full well what he was up against..

    I have no doubt That ken could Take Roberto the distence, and after the first fight Ken did seem toplant himself a little more, and start to pick up some stoppages, Chu Chu Malve, Chung Kil Lee etc, so Roberto would not be able to Walk Throught the gritty Scot in a second Match,

    Instead of a Street Mugging type of Fight, i Think Ken can Enjoy some Rounds 2nd Time Around, But a still improving Roberto can i think, "Pick His Moments" To snatch the innitative from Ken, with more Cultured Bursts of Aggression, Some rounds Buchanan may be Shading the first two minutes, only for Roberto to Unleash some round winning Aggression in the last Minute, Roberto can keep he Flinty Classy Scot from Building his Rythme, which Ken usually did to Frustrate opponents,
    Like all "boxers", if you leave them, alone at distence to Box you can wave goodbye to the points, At the end of the Day Roberto does not get Discouraged, does not get disheartened, and Does not Leave Ken Alone long Enough or Often Enough for him to collect the bigger share of the Points

    Duran on Points, in probably a better fight then the first encounter, Duran would have to fight Smarter to win...and he would
     
  12. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Excellent post. I totally agree. Buchanan, being the super craftsman would have fared better with the more educated, patient version rather than the maniac he fought in 1972 :D . I see a close UD for Roberto nonetheless. He would get under the jab enough to do much damge but Ken skills would see him win more rounds than last time (which was only about 3 if we're honest) and his chin is too sturdy to be knocked out.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Duran was 21 ,if they fought within a year I don't see Buchanan faring much better other than going the distance.Duran was manic in that fight ,his intensity was frightening.His fine head movement partially off set Ken's rapier jab,and Roberto's constantly flinging himself forward making it a trench war ,negated Buchanan's superior footwork, and ring artistry .I thought Duran was clearly winning the fight with the Scot stubbornly contesting every second of the fight,in a rematch I think Ken is in for a very gruelling evening ,owing to the steel in his soul never allowing him to concede defeat.A points decision for the Panamanian maniac and a brutal coshing for the gritty Scot.
     
  14. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Duran would beat buchanan clearly if they had fought again as he was clearly beating ken before the stoppage, i really don' think buchanan was ever as good after the duran fight (and espicially the low blow finish) as he had been before it.

    Meanwhile roberto would go on to improve so i cannot really see this being much closer as long as duran turned up motivated
     
  15. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another possibility, albeit slim is that the fighters pre-perception in a rematch is reversed, Buchanan knows exactly what he is up against and has no illusions about meeting a Raw kid who will be overwhelmed by the occassion Etc prepares extremely diligently

    But what of Duran, could he perhaps feel that buchanan was simply turning ou for a final payday ? could the Underestimation mentality be reversed 2nd time around ?

    Roberto did get Ambushed and suffered his first loss by Dejusus After Buchanan 1st - could the Party Animal slip up perhaps ?