Duran vs Cuevas, Duran at 154 Cuevas's first fight outa WW, Who brought more power

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  1. MAG1965

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  2. MAG1965

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    Duran fought at 154 before Benitez,Leonard or Hearns ever did. 1978. He weighed in higher between fights and after his career was over than his buddies Hearns,Leonard,Hagler or Benitez. Problem with Duran is he could not deal with fast guys who boxed him.
     
  3. LittleRed

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    So so true. The problem with the Fab Four was they all had glaring weaknesses. Duran never could beat a mover. Leonard couldn't deal with someone more athletic than himself. Hagler needed to intimidate guys to be able to win. And Hearns couldn't win a fight against someone who could take his punch and fire back.

    Which is why I nominate Hugo Corro as the best fighter of that era...
     
  4. WhyYouLittle

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    Flawless logic.
     
  5. TheSouthpaw

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    People talkin about the fab 4 of the 80's...I love it
     
  6. Senor Pepe'

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    Actually,

    The word was out much earlier on Jose 'Pipino' Cuevas.

    August 1979

    Randy Shields was hitting 'Pipino' with every 'powder-puff' punch known to
    mankind in Chicago in 1979, while going 15-Rounds, and getting hit with every
    punch 'Pipino' threw.

    December 1979

    Washed up, 31 1/2 year-old - former Champion Angel 'Cholo' Espada with '59-bouts'
    under his belt, fought well and took 'Pipino' into the 10th Round, before succombing to a TKO.

    April 1980

    Little 'South African' - Harold Volbrecht was 'rocking' 'Pipino' all over the
    place, until that wild hook knocked him out in Round 5.


    Jose 'Pipino' Cuevas could punch better than anybody at 147 lbs., but,,,,,,,,
     
  7. TheGreatA

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    Perhaps Cuevas just wasn't that great, aside from his punching power.
     
  8. TheSouthpaw

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    Good point!.
     
  9. TheSouthpaw

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    @TheGreatA...I still believe power wasnt his only attribute..He could box, move, and counter with the best of em..
     
  10. turbotime

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    I've been saying this and I get blasted by the apologists :nut

    Who was his best win? Shields? Shields isn't even in Canastota.
     
  11. MMJoe

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    Cuevas had a Journeyman's record before becoming a champion. While champion KOing everyone and breaking bones. After losing his title became a .500 fighter.
    Cuevas was a shell when he fought Duran. They say the first thing to go on a fighter is his legs and the last thing to go is a fighter's punch. Cuevas didn't have a punch anymore.
     
  12. TheSouthpaw

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    I couldnt call Cuevas a .500 fighter at that point...But he wasnt at his best no doubt..
     
  13. TheSouthpaw

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    Cuevas was a shell though....your right about that
     
  14. MMJoe

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    Look at his record after hearns; 8-8...that's a .500 in my book.
     
  15. Senor Pepe'

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    Before 'Pipino' won the WBA Welterweight Championship over Angel 'Cholo' Espada,
    he was a 'wild swinging' Mexican banger.

    Now, he was unknown in America, but the 18 1/2 year-old was 'wildly popular' in
    Mexico, and was a 'Star' with the youngsters who knew all about him.

    Forget about his early record of losses, as those were registered when he was only
    a 135 lb. Lightweight, and a 14 and 15 year-old 'learning professional'.

    We can't be too critical.