Duran Vs Oscar At Welter

I guess we'll agree to disagree. It's a brave call indeed having that much confidence in that particular version of Duran. He was slow, lacking in ideas, ponderous at closing the distance, reflexes not as sharp, and easier to hit than usual. Thats the problem for Duran, he'll not land enough bodyshots to slown down De La Hoya IMO.

:good

 

I was laughing at that one myself. I liked the 'pink bicycle' earlier as well.

 

Robbi wins the 2008 ESB Understatement of the Year.

"de la Hoya isnt quite on Leonard's level as a fighter"

Wow, you can say that again. de la Hoya is to Leonard what Timex is to Rolex.

 

Oscar ran from Trinidad. He would not be able to do that against Duran. Duran by late stoppage or a not so close decision. People forget how great Duran was at slippling punches. He would frustrate Oscar and hurt him to the body as well.

 

The ww Duran who beat Leonard would brutalize Oscar, either stopping him late or winning every round en route to a shutout UD, with Oscar in a mess by the end.

 

i think duran was a handful whatever weight he fought at

and in my opinion for what it is worth duran would get inside oscars jab and goto war which would bring out oscars mexican side and make him brawl aswell resulting in a duran fight. i think it would be very much like duran-leonard 1

 

More like Duran-Sean Fitzgerald.

 

lol

 

My response addressed the rigidity of your assertion. Dismissing hypotheticals between modern guys who never went 15 and guys who did as "ridiculous and unrealistic" is an overstatement.

Hearns would often fade over 15. Duran did too as a MW. Hopkins wouldn't. And if you think that he would, then that's rigid. He is a supremely trained athlete and you know it -and many others are as well. You are reluctant to give them the benefit of the doubt, even though these hypothetical require myriad suspensions of disbelief. I simply would give many recent fighters the benefit of the doubt.

Is there an advantage? Sure, overall, but I don't think that it is a dealbreaker and there are many who probably wouldn't be very effected at all.

Every thread on this site with hypothetical match-ups is "speculation and pure and utter guess work"!

Sometimes. However, it clearly favors the boxers who train hard and are committed to their trade, all the time.

 

No problem Stonehands. We are on the same wave length for once, but just disagree on the matter. I'll freely admit that I would have confidence in some fighters over the last 20 years. Some would struggle, some not. Thats not the point of course.

Would you not agree that 12 rounds is fairer? Obviously many 15 round fighters were programmed to go that particular duration. But if you can go 15, then you can go 12. Not necessarily the case the other way around.

And what score did you get at school for English? Because while your grammar presentation is impressive, as are the use of your words to explain your points, it's rather complicated when getting the basics across in some instances. I'm reasonably clued up and not a dunce, yet find your wording a little too fancy. "hypothetical require myriad suspensions of disbelief" I read some autobiographies by respected authors that don't contain your wording. A feather in your cap.

 

That's an interesting idea...I'd encourage us all to state whether it is 12 or 15 in these hypotheticals. I bet that most out here are a bit sentimental about 15 rounds. I know I am. There was a great poster out here -Duodenum- who would have the most intellectual conniption fits I ever witnessed in his posts about the crime of eradicating those championship rounds.

A feather in my cap? Look at it more closely. It's mud in my eye. "Hypothetical" is the wrong tense.

 

Duodenum. He never had an avatar and posted over a year ago, yes? Maybe longer actually. He never posted often, but when he did his content was worth noting in the brain. Pretty much old school and supported 15 rounders coming back one day in his lifetime.

Hey, thought I'd give you a little bit feedback on how I view your posts, and how sometimes they are difficult to absorb when it comes to understanding your word choices.

I'll need to get an English lesson from yourself as mines aint perfect. My wording is basic compared to yours, and some others.