Dwight Muhamad Qwai vs James Toney

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  1. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cruiserweight or lightheavy, whichever.
     
  2. Guyfawkes

    Guyfawkes Than who was phone?! Full Member

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    Toney schools him at either weight IMO
     
  3. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Qawi ****s him up. It's actually a pretty bad match up for James.
     
  4. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    Qawi's workrate, physicality, and own defensive and counterpunching skill wins him this fight very clearly. Toney would be in over his head against Qawi, who was much more advanced a fighter as compared to guys like Jirov and Barkley.
     
  5. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both are very talanted, skilled fighters with an iron chin and excellent defence, both are great counterpunchers.

    It's a tough call
     
  6. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Qwai wins a wide decision.
     
  7. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Qawi, as Quenzell McCall and Wesley Mouzon pointed out, was actually an outside fighter who had to be developed by them to learn to fight on the inside. With Toney, I think Dwight would be able to box at his preferred range, largely keeping James at distance with his era best counter jab. This would be a rough match for Light's Out, whose work rate wouldn't be sufficient to keep up with the Buzzsaw. Ike may have been the biggest stylistic nightmare of anybody in the early 1980s. His reach is 71 inches to Toney's 72 inches, and nobody was better at optimizing their reach than Qawi.
     
  8. Bobo

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    Great fight at cruiserweight if Toney comes in similar shape to the Ramon Garbey or Adolpho Washington fights. both would have went at it. too tough to call though. we don't really know how they'd have dealt with each other's style, so it's 50/50. At light heavy I'll pick Qawi by decision, just because Qawi was great at lhw. but Toney was not bad there, especially in his Anthony Hembrick fight and inside fighting masterpiece against Freddie Delgado. Qawi has just beaten the much better fighters at lhw.
     
  9. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    I'm going Qawi in a extremely close fight. Nip and tuck. He was a dawg of all dawgs. Underrated.
     
  10. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great post as usual,Duodenum:good
     
  11. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I personally believe it wouldn't have been that close.Toney never beat anyone nearly as good as Dwight.And James was brilliant at talking trash and getting under an opponents skin.Against tough guy Qawi,that's irrelevant.
     
  12. Guyfawkes

    Guyfawkes Than who was phone?! Full Member

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    Dwight didn't possess the power to K.O. James that's for sure, and although his workraye would trouble him, its nothing Toney hasn't experienced before

    I think Dwight's wide shots would be slipped and ducked all night, with Toney throwing counter left hooks to the body and counter rights all night long, also this is a rare bout were Toney enjoys a height advantage, so perhaps he even brings his underrated jab into play
    Imo Toney takes a wide UD
     
  13. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, this one obviously goes the limit.
    Not sold. Qawi's body was well guarded against and poorly positioned for hooking at, and he rode out rights to the head very well (as he showed against Saad Muhammad in their first match).

    Good discussion and great thread topic, by the way.
     
  14. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney gets beaten up here but goes the distance. Qawi's jab in his teeth all night long.
     
  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Two hard men ... no KO here ... I like Qwai based on work rate ... Toney was never terrifically conditioned from weight drain to fat and I see a much busier Qwai out pointing him at 175 ...