Dwight Qawi vs. James Toney at Light-Heavy or cruiser

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  1. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These guys have some similarities...both good defensively, skilled counter-punchers, short and stocky. Who do you think takes it at each weight?
     
  2. Clinton

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    Dwight's simply a better fighter. He beats James at both weights.
     
  3. Bobo

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    I'd go for Toney at cruiserweight and Qawi at light heavyweight.
     
  4. Vince Voltage

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    Clinton, what makes you say Dwight's a better fighter? I would definitely be rooting for him...he's an old favorite of mine.
     
  5. Mr Butt

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    I'd take qawi to beat toney at both weights via close decision dwight's much higher work rate would be the edge here
     
  6. Clinton

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    Cheers, Double V. Dwight's a favorite of mine, too:good. At 175, they both have very high boxing IQ's. James is excellent defensively with his shoulder rolls, but Dwight's defensive timing is top notch, too. James is terrific on the inside, but lacks footspeed and is nowhere near as effective on the outside. Dwight's terrific on the inside and is better outside with his jab and timing even though his reach is short. James is a tough hombre, but at 175, Dwight's an outright beast who beat better fighters than James did and has a better resume. And I don't see Dwight losing to or having close fights with some of the fellows that James did. I mean one is entitled to an off night, but can you imagine Dwight having such problems with Dave Tiberi? Also, Mr Butt mentioned Dwight's higher workrate being a difference, too, and I tend to agree.
     
  7. Vince Voltage

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    Yes, the work rate, the tenacity, are what separates them to me. Toney, as we all know, can be lazy not only in the gym, but sometimes in the ring, too. Qawi had some flat nights, but they were rare: most of the time he could be counted on to all over his opponents. I'd pick him, too.
     
  8. Clinton

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    Cheers, Double V!!! James and Bernard Hopkins were known for their toughness. But Dwight was a true badass that handled an intimidating James Scott in the prison that they both served time. Could you imagine the trash talk going into those would be fights? At 175, I see Dwight taking care of both of them convincingly.
     
  9. Bobo

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    Cheers Bobo, I agree
     
  10. AREA 53

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    Dwight, with his inside Dip-Slip-An-Rip is just as adept at James at coming out of a defensive posture to instant aggression, The Jab on the way inside is the occupier, So James, who can usually dictate the terms of the engagement would not own this, i can not help but feel that whilst James would undoubtedly have moments, particularly early, the blades of the Buzzsaw keep whirring...and thats the Hub...Dwights workrate keeps him in the Driving seat..particularly as the bout reaches its second half, James would see moral little victories in denying Dwight definitive damage...but he would not be able to capitilise to any great extent, as he did say against the much more accessible Iran Barkley, Dynamo Dwight just keeps bearing down on his gumshield...An Alien Chest-buster in reverse..trying to Burrow IN... His unflagging Industry would i feel show him to be the boss in there...James may not be chopped to bits by the Buzzsaw...but should suffer loss on the scorecards..by a few hundred cuts...if not the Proverbial death by a thousand.
     
  11. heavy_hands

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    toney by decision in both weights, toney was smarter, faster, he had iron chin, harder to hit... the version of toney who faced holyfield at 217 pounds would beat any qawi
     
  12. Mr Butt

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    It doesn't matter about the 217lb toney the OP stated at light-heavy & cruiser
     
  13. heavy_hands

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    WELL. this version of toney would beat any qawi h2h, so i don“t need more.. anyway i pick toney also at lhw and cruiser, he was better.
     
  14. Xplosive

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    Qawi wins at either weight.
     
  15. Xplosive

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    Last time I checked 217 wasn't cruiserweight genius.

    Toney didn't hit hard enough to deter Qawi the way Spinks did, therefore Qawi would just get in his chest and outwork him.

    Qawi was really an amazing talent if you think about it. He was a guy who learned how to box in prison, yet somehow picked up some VERY sophisticated skills.

    He was very good defensively, had bull dozing power, deceptively quick hands, and a rock chin.

    He'd be too much for Toney at either weight. Both these guys are amongst my all time favorite fighters, but I just think the styles favor Qawi.

    He was a cut above Toney as a lightheavy.