Dwyer: Current Toney Would Do Better Against Wlad Than He Did Against Lebedev

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  1. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwjwqzGmib4[/ame]



    I have yet to see him praise Wlad ONCE. Dwyer has never given him any props for anything. What a monumental ****.
     
  2. IRONSENSE2002

    IRONSENSE2002 muslim and proud Full Member

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    i have to agree, he picks black fighters to win fights almost all the time, even though he states theres no race agenda, i dont watch his videos but i wouldnt be surprised if told ppl to put money on james toney for the upset.
     
  3. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If by "better" he means that Toney would get KO'd...then I'd have to agree. :D
     
  4. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Surely this proves that this clown is nothing more than a pure troll.
     
  5. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL @ comparing Lebedev's mobility to Manny Pacquiao.

    Would Toney do better against Wlad than Lebedev? Well, considering he lost every round, the only way he can do worse is to get knocked out.

    Dwyer is basically saying that Lebedev was too fast, so Toney needs a tall, immobile fighter like...Wlad (?!) so Toney can outmaneuver him.

    Uh...Wlad is faster AND mobile than Sam Peter, who beat Toney.


    ***EDIT - I actually listened to this through the end, and I noticed that his website is something called "gamblersadvisory.com" or somesuch. If that's the case, I'm wondering if maybe I'm misinterpreting his purpose here. If he's looking at fights from a gambling profiteering perspective, then it actually makes sense that he's going to discuss big betting underdogs and position people with high upset potential and high payouts. That probably explains his constant talking up of longshots.
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This man...don't take gambling advise from.
     
  7. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wlad is a small guy and he can't puch:D ,so Toney definitely would do much better against him , he would probobly jab Wlad to death for 5 rounds and then KO him later,but still I go with Wlad by KO or TKO in 8.
     
  8. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Precisely. Wlad is mobile and has good hand and foot speed plus extraordinary foot work. The fact that he's 6'6" makes him look rather unslick executing his speed but how is that relevant when he's excellent at doing it? Dwyer is still assuming he's talking about some unskilled robot who happens to be the best because the competition is so pathetic which might hold some truth but discrediting Wlad's capabilities the way he does is simply hating. He reminds me of Jack. Two huge ****s who should quit watching boxing on the spot.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    WTF? :lol:

    What is the appeal with Dwyer? Why does everyone know who this guy is, to the point that many threads are created hanging on his every word?

    Why don't I have a Youtube channel devoted to soapboxing about boxing? :think
     
  10. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mormeck, for all his lack of exciting wins at HW has better overall resume btween the 2 weights. He also has more KOs at the 2 weights. While Toney obviously has the better grill, I seriously believe that if JMM can find a way to smother Wlad that he could stand until the final bell, or at least make it through the 10th as Adamek did vs Vitali.
    That said, this version of JT, and for that matter, and in ALL honesty, ANY VERSION OF TONEY, is a fighter who fights off the backfoot. Wlad also fights off the back foot. He is so less likely to be slipped and countered than Ledbedev is, that I literally could not see ANY version of Toney that outboxes Wlad as well as Ibragimov, Chagaev, or Chambers did.
    ATM.......MormeckUD12 Toney

    Wlad KO either, TONEY FASTER.
     
  11. gipsylon

    gipsylon Member Full Member

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    because you're not attention *****?
     
  12. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Well... he'd take less punches.
     
  13. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great article, son.
     
  14. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Because what you say would probably make sense, so no one would listen to you :bart
     
  15. The_President

    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    That guy in the ring last night wasn't James Toney. That was a damn cripple alter ego.