Dwyer: Current Toney Would Do Better Against Wlad Than He Did Against Lebedev

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  1. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    wat
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    :lol:

    Lebedev KO1 Jirov, huh ? :deal
     
  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Just when I was writing it I remembered that... couldn't help myself :lol:
     
  4. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    :nod

    It would be one thing if Toney still had something useful in his offensive arsenal. A lot of defensive boxers as they age and lose their legs (along with reflexes and timing) change their style to adapt to their physical limitations and become more scrappy. (see Cory Spinks slugging it out with Phillips and Latimore, it's starting to happen with PBF standing in the pocket more, etc.)

    The thing is, he doesn't have that big a punch at CW or HW. He isn't feather fisted at the weights as many seem to think...but he doesn't have any one punch that can be a big difference-maker and turn a fight around against anyone with even remotely high resistance. Those right hands he was flopping up from his hip against Lebedev? Gutting as it is to say, that's his BEST weapon right now. His jab is pitiful. He seems to have forgotten what hooks, uppercuts, and body shots are for the most part. His reach has always been a deficiency, but he made up for it with speed and timing that have just badly eroded now.

    He'll almost never have height or reach advantages over a cruiser or heavy. He'll sometimes have an edge in hand speed, but not always. Hardly ever in sheer power. Accuracy? Honestly his is among the very worst right now...how the mighty have fallen.

    No defense and no offense really doesn't leave a fighter left with much.

    I'd be more inclined to wish for him to retire, since it would be heartbreaking to see him lose to regional-grade talent. It was bad enough seeing him get shut out by a relatively mediocre (for world-class) guy like Lebedev who's top 5 in a ****-weak division.
     
  6. Whoever said Toney would do better against Wlad than Lebedev is full of horse****:deal
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    :thumbsup Dwyer is an overstuffed horse**** burrito. Without even a dollop of guac. :verysad
     
  8. jordan1

    jordan1 Juan Lopez #1 Full Member

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    Dwyer is on crack..
     
  9. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's Dwyer then. Worst boxing analyst since Jack.
     
  10. MaliBua

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    And that is saying something:D
     
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  13. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toney wouldn't even touch Wlad once until he gets KTFO
    Toney has no coordination whatsoever no motor skills anymore hes damaged hes way to late with everthing he does, he could possibly make it some rounds but wouldn't come close to win a single second in such a fight
     
  14. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its kinda painful to say but i think Jack might be a better boxing analyst than Dwyer nowadays.
    That said i think both should stop watching and commentating on boxing and just follow high school basketball.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    When people say Jack, do they mean ESB Jack? The Brit?

    For some reason I get him and PeteThePrince mixed up in my head. They both irrationally hate Mayweather, right?