Dwyer Responds to Al Bernstein's Pac - FMJ Prediction

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  1. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    That's cool you had to expand all the way out to top 30. Way to cover your bases. By the way, Mosley was NOT lineal champion. Put that argument to rest already. Mayweather took a 18 month break, he was still lineal WW champ. Baldomir was a weak champion, it's hard to justify that he wasn't and Judah was coming off his loss to Baldo. Floyd had to really pour it on thick on ESPN to justify it.
     
  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    More than catching Pac with the straight right while backing out which is an excellent point, I think Manny's complete lack of defensive skills on the inside would decide matters for Floyd. I can certainly see a physical Floyd getting inside on Manny - maybe starting with the straight right and quickly cutting off the ring - and there he'd use an endless arsenal of legal and borderline illegal tactics, tricks and skills, and would find target for his shots quite regularly.

    Floyd not throwing a volume doesn't mean he CAN'T, he simply wins without throwing too many, so why be busy he asks. Pac however is a shark who cannot stop swimming because that'd expose his defensive holes - take the intensity away either by slip & counter (JMM) or taking the fight on the inside (that'd be Floyd), and Pac is reduces to someone like Hasegawa, a fast, multi-angle high risk-taker who isn't very hard to hit and can be timed, and Floyd has one of the best punishing accuracy in the sport.

    More than what Pacquiao ever did Floyd lil'bit of slowdown particularly on foot makes me reconsider my position - as above - in 2011. Can he STILL cut the ring down like a good few years back, is his defense and alert STILL at it's best? I think he's not the same anymore, but if you see Floyd getting inside on Pac early and witness Manny's intensity drop, the fight is over as far as I'm concerned.
     
  3. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    These are many of the same points I repeatedly make on these forums.
     
  4. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When I look back at floyd v Judah I see the success Judah had early on, the problem is the same success judah had will not be the same success PAC would be having. If you noticed Judah fights at a controlled pace almost mirroring floyd and was able to carefully time and hit floyd in each exchange. PAC cannot fight at a controlled Pace like this, PAC also cannot mirror floyd's pace which is the key for a southpaw success against him.

    If PAC ain't throwing or bringing on the pressure he is out of his comfort zone, PAC needs to be in charge of the pace and the action. I saw this clearly in the later rounds against cotto, when cotto was controlling the pace fighting on the back foot, picking PAC off quite easily at times, although cotto was extremely damaged by that point.

    Nonetheless we saw a brief glimpse of how PAC reacts to not being able dictate the pace of the fight.

    This is why I see PAC losing the fight quite decisively because floyd will control the pace and pac's output.