Earliest period of boxing where modern heavyweights would destroy everybody?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    How far back would you have to go before you find a heavyweight division that would be easy for a modern contender to smash through under gloved rules?

    Just thinking realistically, such a period *must* have existed at some point or another, no matter where you fall on the modern/classic continuum.
     
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  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    In the ruleset of the day, or under modern rules?
     
  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Louis era rules. Gloves. 15 rounds.
     
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  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Pre-Sullivan IMO.

    The Sullivan era was weak, but I don't think a modern contender that'd easilly beat Sullivan.

    I think a few of the bareknuckle guys could be tough under a neutral ruleset, but adding in such a learning curve to the rules could make it less competitive.

    But the era before Sullivan came about seems especially weak.
     
  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    How far before Sullivan?
     
  6. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think the period just before he came about.
     
  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    The first era where there were less than 10,000 people doing it, perhaps.
     
  8. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Never. I don't see modern heavyweights ever easily destroying fighters from earlier periods, since even in the past there was some seriously skilled and talented fighters. Also, not all modern fighters are great and being modern doesn't automatically equate to being better.
     
  9. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Sullivan/Corbett/Fitz era, possibly Johnson’s era too.
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This is how I see it.

    Sullivan seems to have been a talent comparable to somebody like Jeffries or Johnson, but I think that a lot of fighters could have had success against the contenders of his era.
     
  11. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    in American sports, modern athletes are far superior athletically to their forerunners, but far less technically skilled. modern kids don't learn to do anything the proper way, they depend upon athleticism.
     
  12. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With all due respect, why not 'flip flop' the modern boys into bygone eras and 'flip flop' the bygone boys into modern eras? A 1990's prime Brown Bomber vs. a 1940's prime Tyson anyone?
    But...given your thread...you have a legitimate debate.
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Francois Botha would rule the pre-Liston era.
     
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  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Louis, Dempsey and Marciano would knock Botha's teeth out within 5 rounds
     
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  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He would steal their souls before the 10th.