Early boxing infighting question for those who practice MMA

Nick Diaz uses a lot of old broughtons-rules era techniques. Cant answer your question because I don't train MMA sorry. Maybe TheWinFella could be of assisstance:thumbsup

 

whats the jist of the manual, im not DLing it

 

41 pages mate and its faded to the point where i cant make it out

 

Thanks for the link.

 

Boxing on the inside/dirty boxing has been present for years. Interestingly, as you can see in the video, the fighters are looking for under hooks to control the body of the other. Now adays, fighters look for overhooks to control the arms of their opponent and stifle the action.

Its a travesty that fighters aren't being allowed to work on the inside. Its making boxing human fencing!

 

I've thought for a while it'd be this era of boxing that'd be far more useful to MMA fighters in terms of study.

 

There is a huge level of ignorance to old timers within boxing and MMA seems to all be about evolution and not very much learning from past masters.

In boxing, there is alot of pride in emulating your idols and mastering their skills but in MMA you wouldn't get that. Maybe because it is still so young.

Boxers don't emulate Jim Jeffries but more Louis, Ali and Tyson.

Maybe this will be the first generation (or maybe the next) where the new breed (Rory McDonald etc) will look like they are trying to be like Silva, GSP and maybe Jones one day.

 

I do have a question to those who train in MMA.

Which do you find more preferable in the clinch, throwing punches or doing mostly elbows and knees?

Also, if your opponent is getting the better of you while in the clinch, why not just shoot for a takedown?

 

I agree. This is the reason why the more MMA fights I watch, the more I get frustrated whenever I watch a boxing match.

For me, in a perfect world, the ideal set of rules for fighting is that there are no rules. Let the fighters do their thing and allow the fight to take it's natural course with no outside intervention.

 

Achilles you know me; I've basically given up on the modern game! Technical regression, not enough fights, not enough of the best fighting the best.

Luckily I have massive archive of fights from the last 100 years to enjoy

 

I love the idea of being a specialist with your hands but they've limited that so badly with the decline of inside fighting. I'm open to more stuff being done with the hands i.e. holding and hitting. If someone is using their left arm but hitting their right then let it go on. Thats why I like regs like Steve Smoger and Frank Cappuccino.

 

I think it should be limited to a very small extent to stop fights becoming less exciting but its ridiculous the way it is at the minute. Some referees break the fight instantly and this is ridiculous.

The refs you mentioned are great because they allow the fighters to work which is how it should be. There are aspects of clinch fighting which are very technical (as shown by the old time fighters) and they should be allowed to be showcased.

Breaking the fight up insantly disrupts the flow of the fight. Imagine how so many fights like Gatti-Ward, Marquez-Vasquez, Castillo-Corrales and so many others fights might not have been as good if they were broken up as soon as they engaged in a clinch like some refs do.