Early rising for roadwork?

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  1. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    It seems it's always been customary for boxers to get up at the crack of dawn to do roadwork but is it necessary to get up so early?

    Getting up earlier also means crashing to bed earlier as well. Fights take place at night. When fights were on HBO, that was 10pm or later if it was a pay-per-view fight.

    Wouldn't it make sense to train the body to peak later when the actual fight happens?
     
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  2. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    A lot of fighters run their training camps to reflect that, to do the bulk of their boxing related training during the time when they will be fighting. If you get up early to run, go back to bed after you run, then train later.
    The biggest thing behind running early is discipline, to get up when you don't feel like, then go run in the dark and the cold.
     
  3. lfcirishdog

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    Tony Galento is quoted as saying " I run at night, cos I fight at night." when asked about his roadwork routine.
    Apparently he had a bar and done his roadwork when it closed at 3am.

    I have done early morning runs, afternoon runs, night runs. The only advantage I find to running early is when you are going to the gym later that today, you have already got a run in and had a good few hours to relax before your boxing gym session.
    Generally I find you just have to suit your own routine, depending what else you are doing. The main thing is to run when you know you should run, whether you run at night or morning doesn't matter as long as you do run.
    Going out in the evening to run when its late, cold also takes discipline. And when you run at night then you will recover as you sleep later and wake up fresh.
    Find what works for you, its okay to experiment, and to change things up a bit so you don't get bored.
     
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  4. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Complete bs. Sleep is the most important thing so why sabotage sleep for the sake of running at a time if it's not suited to you. If it is, then do it. Sleep is a great form of power, recover and clarity. The only time or times you should run deprived is for preparing your body and mind for the unexpected. Like being sleep deprived, and not at your best in many ways, shapes and forms like you could be and would be in a fight. You train to cover all scenarios. And yes this does include training around certain times that your fight will be. What are you going to do, start training all the time when you've been up all day? begin your training when you're not fresh, relaxed, rested and ready to go? Counter productive. Also it's one day. One day or night when you're going to be fighting at a different time. Big whoop. Again, sometimes yes you will train at a different time so you're prepared. You wouldn't to start ****ing your body and mind up, destroying your nervous system among many things because you're training at **** times, not fresh etc.

    Kostya Tszyu's trainer back in the amateurs or something deliberately made him stay up all night without sleep to fight. After he beat him he said remember this because it may happen in the future where a time comes that you don't sleep but you did it and you won. You can do it again if need be. These are things that you don't do all the time.

    And on the running at night thing. I did that in my teens. Or a soccer thing once a week as I got older. No chance doing that now with my routine and everything. I wind down early and Even If I were to do 5-10 minutes of any exercise, that could ramp up my nervous system and stress hormones especially considering what I did earlier in the day and that will in turn **** up my sleep. Pointless. Counter productive. I won't recover from the training, from that day and night when my body needs to sleep and it will **** up my next day too as well as training. The slightest thing can set all that **** off and set everything off. As well as doing a tiny bit of cardio, albeit minute. I'll get hungry again. Important to remember, the adrenaline can kick in as mentioned exercise or not. Sleep's ****ed. Pointless.

    Everyone is different.

    For me sleep is clarity and my muscles and mind are '' empty '' meaning I can '' walk on air ''

    Give me 8-10 hours of quality sleep and fresh muscles and I can fly like an Eagle. I''d take that a train 100 percent All In and fire on all cylinders any day of the week. You're sleep will get ****ed up from time to time anyway.

    On the flip side. I've had good sessions when I have been sleep deprived. But that's the minority and I want a focused, flowing mind and body. For me I'll take the sleep.

    Tim Tszyu said before the Harrison bout when asked about his brother fighting on that same card, what would he be doing. He said he would be sleeping.

    Sleep=Relaxed. Calm. Composed. Fresh. Powerful. Clear.
     
  5. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also on sleep

    Mental and Physical Sharpness

    Good reaction times

    Good focus
     
  6. Saintpat

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    I don’t think it matters when a boxer runs so much as it matters IF a boxer does his roadwork, but there are a few advantages to doing it early:

    1) Pollution. Depending on where one lives/runs, there are going to usually be more cars on the road the later it gets (during the workday), thus more exhaust and more dirty air. Better to breath in clean air, so if you get up at dawn (or before) and hit the road before the morning rush hour, you’re at a more optimal time for avoiding pollutants.

    (Of course if you’re running through the woods, in a rural area, on a golf course, etc., then this isn’t a consideration.)

    2) Front-loading roadwork assures you get it done. If a fighter wakes up at 5 a.m. and hits the road by 5:30 or 6, there aren’t often any distractions or other things that can come up that make you skip it — that can be anything from relationship issues (say the gf complains that you aren’t spending enough time with her so nags you to come do something with her soon as you’re done at the gym, when you might otherwise do your road work) to family stuff (maybe your father or brother calls and needs help changing a tire or you’ve got to pick up your kids from school or a dance recital) or any one of a million other things that can get in the way later in the day.

    If you do your roadwork early, you’ve gotten that box checked for the day if anything comes up.

    3) Not all boxers are able to do boxing full-time … in fact, most boxers have regular jobs. Whether it’s physical labor or some kind of mentally taxing occupation, being weary after work. Might provide the excuse not to run later in the day.

    4) Discipline. Boxing demands being able to function in uncomfortable situations (like getting beat up/hit or persevering through a busted nose or a cut or being knocked down), and getting up early to run isn’t comfortable for most people. That’s reason enough to do it. Doing so can also build confidence — I’m out here at the crack of dawn every day, bet my opponent isn’t!. And, as mentioned above with distractions that can come up in the course of a day to deter one from training, running early allows one to better keep a routine.

    Generally someone who runs early can find time to make sure they get enough sleep — take a nap after running if you don’t have to be at work or in the gym right after, or go to bed earlier, whatever, so I don’t see that as a factor. Running takes as much time regardless of what hour of the day, so it’s not like running earlier leaves one fewer hours to sleep.
     
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  7. Journeyman92

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    It also makes breakfast taste better when you’re starved from a run.
     
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  8. Saintpat

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    Breakfast is six raw eggs in a blender at 4 a.m. The Rocky Balboa diet.

    For protein, go to a meat locker and bang on the sides of beef til your knuckles bleed.
     
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  9. Rockin1

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    I could never eat after my runs, it'd upset my stomach something horrible. If I ate after running it was in one hole and 10 minutes later out another hole.

    And forget about eating before the run.
     
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  10. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well you’ve got three choices:

    1) Eat before you run

    2) Eat while you run

    3) Eat after you run

    Granted, it doesn’t have to be immediately after, but you’ve got to eat sometime haha.

    (I guess the fourth choice is eat and never run, but that’s not likely to get you in fighting shape, lol.)
     
  11. pecho26

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    Its more of a mental thing and discipline.
     
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  12. Rockin1

    Rockin1 Pugilistic Member Full Member

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    It is about that but having strong legs in the ring is HUGE!

    Running will not only build your legs stronger but will also give them the endurance needed to carry your body around the ring through all of the bells.

    Running is an important factor in this sport.
     
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  13. Rockin1

    Rockin1 Pugilistic Member Full Member

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    I just skipped breakfast.
     
  14. pecho26

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    My fighters dont do it that much to be honest, they rather do assault bike or normal stationary bike from time to time.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

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    Running late is better than nothing, but early is better than late.