Early versions of advanced techniques.

theres good footage of Benny Lynch he's complete control, Tony Canzoneri v Frankie Glick nice boxing, Medina & Paterson if you can find it, and on that other thread Manuel Ortiz & the same Theo Medina.

IF these can't prove to you people walked the same, ****ed the same and fought just as good & hard well nothing will, plus they did it every other week.

 

I can watch that one all freaking day.

 

As orriray said Magna, check out Benton.

That Gans footage you mentioned has always wowed me. That right uppercut!

Langford, Canzoneri, Chocolate, all looking 'modern'...and a darn sight better than anyone operating today IMO.

I think these 'advanced techniques' may appear more sporadic in older footage for the same reason punching can seem infrequent in these bouts; smaller gloves meaning timing and precision being more important rather than the aesthetically pleasing combo's we have seen more and more of with each advancing era (now evolving into shoe shining)

 

Funny that, I find that one a pitiful watch and disappointing.

I find Jim Driscoll, admittedly against a lesser opponent, a more interesting watch. While it's great we have footage of two Bonafide greats going at it from a long time ago I found they cancelled each other out a bit, and the good work done by Packey...was maybe not too archaic but just wasn't very pleasing from either an aesthetic or technical standpoint.

 

Oh, and MAGNA :hi:

As thistle said, Benny Lynch translates very well to the modern viewer. Midget Wolgast Vs Juan Zurita is a very impressive defensive performance that reaffirms my view that Floyd isn't doing anything particularly noteworthy against his level of opposition, or at least nothing new.

Not that he's stylistically similar to Floyd. I go back to Kid Chocolate and later George Benton for guys doing similar things to Floyd technically. But letting their hands go more

 

I've mentioned this one before but I was and still am super impressed with the performance of Owen Moran against the great Battling Neson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WeeUxuaRlEw

Morans' (he's the shorter bloke in the ring) use of distance, timing and generalship are something to behold for a fight that's over a century old. Nelson was past his best apparently after his epic with Wolgast but he didn't get a look in as Moran completely dominated him.

 

Have a look at Canzoneri - Ambers 1

 

Tunney - Gibbons is an awesome display of foot movement and counter punching.

 

Check Lloyd Marshall-Freddie Mills and Freddie Steel-Vince Dundee/Gus Lesnevich for good early examples of a leaping left hook.

Steele's right hand is very good too.

Steele is a bit wild against Dundee but looks great destroying Lesnevich.

 

'10s-'20's and 60's-80's seem to be the best times for skilled fights. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Do believe stuff now is just recycled but of course in a much dumber era. Hopkins, Mccallum, Floyd im sure, JMM, and Toney will be happy to say they learned from great fighters before them. Will look through this thread this site needs more o these.