Earnie Shavers' Power Quotes- An Explanation

Crosstrainer & others have keep writhing objections & corrections you cannot answer.
I will just address your points above.

1) A few people have shown you folks Tua hit, & often, & they did not go down or get knocked out.
Tua hit really hard, but you are selective/cherry picking the effects of his shots compared to others because you like him.

2) Another sign of bias: you must be aware that Ali was not hurt when Frazier dropped him & got up very quickly.
You should also know he was trying to launch an uppercut, & Frasier literally beat him to the punch & Ali did not see the shot coming. That example does not show Frasier as having top tier power-great as he was, he did not hit as hard as say Tua, & certainly not Shavers.

3) Many folks see support for his power in ring-even though we do not have most of his KOs.
But the crucial fact is you cannot discount inconvenient evidence: opinions seems universal, win or lose, KO or decision, *everyone* said Shavers hit them the hardest, whatever other Monsters they fought.

Add this to the fact that his delivery system & finishing ability, endurance & chin were not elite, & what he could & did do anyway...
It seems clear he likely hit harder for single punches than anyone mentioned.

 

Tua landed 282 shots on Ike, 110 on Lewis. Or does he mean 8 in a row? I don't think anyone in history got hit by 8 hooks in a row, that's a borderline impossible criteria and a bit ridiculous to ask.

Good call on Peter, he basically walked through Wladmir's shots like he was made of cement. Wladmir had crazy power and couldn't put a dent in him somehow.

 

Punchstats counts "power punches" landed, right? You could probably find a whole lot of guys who absorbed more than 8 total power punches from Lewis, Tua, Ruddock, Morrison, Wlad, Wilder, etc.

 

Something happened to your post's formatting. I'm not sure what.

 

the thing is not just taking strong punches in general why are you doing that you know I didnt say that

they do the same thing when I said how razor bowe and lennox moved way better then louis they say the footwork was bad of bowe I specifically said in general which can be upper and lower

I specifically said sig punch which was dave hook and for earn was his right I didnt say like your saying in general

 

Mercer was basically Morrison's punching bag the majority of the fight before walking him down, clipping him with a good shot, then taking over. Foreman likewise got nailed by God knows how many blows from Morrison.

Tyson absorbed at least 1-2 smashes every round in both fights with Ruddock. Morrison took some nuclear smashes as well. I think I mentioned on a previous page how 35 year old Weaver who was stopped by 12 different guys went the distance with Ruddock.

Wladmir basically had target practice against Wach couldn't force a stoppage. Couldn't put a dent in Jennings or Purity. Threw everything but the kitchen sink at Peter and Brewster and got manhandled.

Wilder fought Fury 3x. Do we even need to elaborate on how many flush bombs he landed on Fury and couldn't KO him?

Holyfield went 24 rounds with Lewis, I'm sure he took way more than 8 power shots. Lewis had to beat Tyson into submission with bomb after bomb. Vitali and Mercer took a hell of a lot of punishment too.

I mean if we're really going to question Shavers powers based on the fact he couldn't stop the greatest HW of all time who also had a cinder block for a chin, what does that say about these other guys?

 

but it still counts as the way a person takes damage you know that

 

I feel video should only be used cause words can be bias or lies is the reason or just outdated

 

I'm not sure what happened to your post's formatting. I'll try to figure out what you're saying and reply below.

He knocked Larry down. He also knocked a whole bunch of other people down and out.

You believe that having lots of KOs is irrelevant to power?

Literally nobody else in this thread is claiming that Shavers has godlike power.

I know you said that quotes shouldn't matter. I disagree with you. You haven't given me any good reason to ditch quotes.

 

You're using words right now. You used words for the last 15 pages.

Without words, you can't even argue about Shavers.

 

So when you use the word, "power," you actually mean "damage"?

 

I did see him drop larry you keep skipping over what I said mutiple times he took earn sig punch mutiple times before falling that is the topic im on he shouldnt have been able to take that mutiple times how dont you see that

I said before by implying that ali larry and others said is implying that the man did have godlike power it is how its said doesn't have to be said this man is god

I know that its mutiple people who have lots of wins by ko and wasnt known as a big hitter

I want you to not use quotes cause it seems like that's what your going off of not your own vision and thoughts

 

no im saying a person tech can take away from damaging the person

 

Wlad's hook and right hand were both equally good. Every one of Lewis's punches were good. They had multiple "signature punches."

Either way, Wlad landed more than 8 straight rights and left hooks on Peter.