Earnie Shavers V Joe Louis?

I pick Louis to defeat shavers very early. But it might be fun for the brief period it lasts

 

Nonsense. Shavers as an outboxer was more skilled than Louis and just as athletic. He was far more athletic than any boxer Louis faced. He won many rounds against Ali and Holmes who much better boxers than Louis and he was better at slipping shots, better jab - yes all you lot saying Louis had a great jab don't have a clue because Louis jab was very short, that isn't a good jab. And Shavers had a way better right hand

Louis was more skilled inside than Shavers, but not outside. But boxing was way more advanced and competive in the 70s than in the 30s

Shavers weakness is his chin and stamina ofcourse

 

Louis goes all Quarry on Shavers and stops him early.

 

This is ridiculous.

This is even worse

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The only attribute, in which Shavers was ever Louis's per, is pure one punch power.

As far as boxing technique is concerned, the kindest way I can put it, is that there are gaps in your knowledge.

The fact that you criticize Louis for having "a short jab" is one example of this!

 

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No it isn't. Like all sports boxing developed. Louis was good for his time but his technique is severely limited because boxing at this time was poor compared to what it became. Louis had a porous defense, a short jab that was very easy to counter and was very very stiff. Louis was a plodder.

Also if Louis doesn't have a short easy to counter jab why did Schmelling and Walcott avoid his jba and counter it all night long? Same with Billy Conn

Sorry but you don't understand basic boxing technique if you can't see how poor Joe Louis is technically. Shavers clearly shows skills on film that are better to Louis, at least as an outboxer

You obviously rate all eras as similarly skilled, which isn't remotely true.

 

Sorry but you don't understand basic boxing technique if you can't see how poor Joe Louis is technically.
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Then on that basis very few people understand boxing technique apart from you, because you are clearly at odds with the vast majority of trainers!

Joe Louis is generally held up as the model of best practice!

 

Sports have been evolving, not necessarily developing. Evolution is not an improvement.

Wow... I simply don't have words for that.

 

Shavers has a puncher's chance, but I don't see him finishing Louis off.
Joe gets dropped early, gets up and rallies with his own bombs. Louis ko3

 

You're not a boxing person. Every single boxing trainer has have moved on from the 1930s because boxing moved on. The techniques Louis employed simply do not hold weight today. They're outdated. No Joe Louis isn't held up as a matter of best practise because he's very very limited. Louis is very easy to outbox. Walcott, Schmelling, Conn and Charles all managed to outbox him and how many others knocked him down? He had good athleticism compared to his peers who he faced. Although he didn't face most of the top black contenders of his day. And when he did he got shown up against Walcott and Charles.

 

How come all of you failed to quote properly? It's not hard, like at all lol

And Burley, quit trolling. It's tiresome.

 

Lol cmon

 

I'm not trolling Shavers was significantly better than anyone Louis faced. Contenders in the 70s were better way than 30s champions because boxing moved on. Some of you have issues accepting that.

I mean I could make a video of mistakes Louis makes that made him easy work for many more modern fighters but I can't be bothered. Joe Louis while good for his era but is very very limited with tons of exploitable weaknesses.

 

Do it then and compare that to Shavers.

 

I really agree with you man. 70s was a different era, the best era IMO, of boxing. The level you needed to be at to be a contender was insane.
That doesn't diminish the achievements of 30s fighters and other old legends, they were as skillful as they knew how to be and were the pinnacle of what boxers were back then.
It's just like the NBA, watch footage from the 40s and see how different shooting, ball handling, and defense is.
The evolution of sport, man.