Earnie Shavers vs Primo Carnera

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    At some point, between the first and last round, Shavers will connect with Primo s chin and he won't need to drop him 11 times (see Baer v Carnera)
     
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  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Carnera was the best heavyweight in the world in an era where there's only 1 champion
     
  4. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    I copy and pasted the first dudes message. I know nothing about either of these fighters.
     
  5. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Baer wanted to prologue the fight so badly he knocked the guy down 7 times in the first three rounds. I'm plugging my video here so you two can point out to me what more Baer could have done in the early rounds to finish the fight.
    Knockdowns begin at 4:50 and the bell to end the third rings at 11:28

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  6. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    To be fair, Primo rarely put weight behind his punches so I doubt he'd have the punching power to consistently give Earnie frights. Primo's best weapon was his jab and his surprising mobility which was likely on display best against Louis.

    I'm not sure how long he could move around Shavers without paying for it.
     
  7. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shavers had no stamina...was a lousy finisher...couldn't put away past his prime Ali and Holmes...never had a KO past the 7th round...and didn't carry his power into the later rounds! a That's all you need to know about Ernie Shavers....Oh yeah...he was KO'd in one round by Jerry Quarry! Talk about overrated...
     
  8. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Scroll up
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Carnera was never the best heavyweight in the world.In his 1 year reign , Schmeling was no 1 and Baer no 2 ,as soon as either got him in a ring he was done.
    Baer stopped Schmeling and put then put an end to Carnera's facile claims.
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Whereas Carnera would have stopped Ali,Holmes, and Quarry?
     
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  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Halfway into the 2nd Baer takes his foot off the gas and walks away ,he does this several times during the fight.It's plain to see.
     
  13. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    He took the foot off the gas after flooring the opponent 6 times in two rounds, or was it that he was pacing himself after that?
    After scoring the knockdowns in round 2 he caught his breath for a while and then started throwing single rights or lefts to catch Primo unaware, as seen at 7:06 and 7:13.
    The argument is simply not supported by the film.
    If the proof that Max kept Carnera around because he was goofing, well, he was goofing in every fight, the nickname was Madcap Maxie for a reason. He was waving to the crowd while sat on the canvas after Louis floored him, did he have that one in the bag too?
    What about the Braddock fight? He pulled identical stunts to the ones he pulled in the Carnera fight, and yet, he didn't have that fight under control either.
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Yes
     
  15. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Max Baer had million dollar chops as a fighter but that is meaningless when you have a two-cent head.