Eastside Boxing Heavyweight Rankings debate

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  1. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Good job of ranking Valuev above two guys who have beaten him....
     
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  2. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    I was going to mess about with this, but it actually looks pretty good. Boytsov is too high, and Peter could be 2 places lower but otherwise its a good top 15 (16)

    Oh yea and I'd have Valuev way down aswell, having lost his last two fights and ducking Vitali Klitschko :deal
     
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  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    The top 5 are fine. I would move Gomez in the top ten, and slide Boystov out until he beats say a top 15ish fighter.
     
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  4. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Mendoza and Squire.
    ok so is this a better list

    Heavyweight
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    1. Vitali Klitschko
    2. David Haye
    3. Alexander Povetkin
    4. Ruslan Chagaev
    5. Tomasz Adameck
    6. Nikolay Valuev
    7. Eddie Chambers
    8. Sam Peter
    9. Tony Thompson
    10. Olandier Solis
    11. Juan Carlos Gomez
    12. Chris Arreola
    13. Alexander Dimitrenko
    14. Dennis Boystov
    15. Evander Holyfield
     
    robpalmer135, Jun 5, 2010
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  5. Kissan

    Kissan I respect box Full Member

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    What about this one:

    Heavyweight
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    1. Vitali Klitschko
    2. David Haye
    3. Alexander Povetkin
    4. Ruslan Chagaev
    5. Tomasz Adameck
    6. Eddie Chambers
    7. Nikolay Valuev
    8. Sam Peter
    9. Chris Arreola
    10. Tony Thompson
    11. Olandier Solis
    12. Dennis Boystov
    13. Juan Carlos Gomez
    14. Alexander Dimitrenko
    15. Evander Holyfield
     
    Kissan, Jun 5, 2010
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  6. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    most seem to be thinking Boystov needs to be lower.
     
    robpalmer135, Jun 5, 2010
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  7. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    but youve got the guy he beat at 4

    fat eddie at 3 and how the **** did tua get in at 10
     
    hagman1989, Jun 5, 2010
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  8. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Please for the love of god someone make Evander Holyfield number 1, send him the official ESB belt, along with a WBC Diamond belt, a GBU belt, and tell him that he is the unified boxing king and then hopefully he hangs them up.
     
    Atlanta, Jun 5, 2010
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  9. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    so u think no evander??
     
    robpalmer135, Jun 5, 2010
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  10. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    I don't get why people cram Haye in at #3.

    Chagaev beat a better version of Valuev, and did it more convincingly. Hell, even a mummified Holyfield did a better job than Haye did.
    I'd rank Chamber's and even Adamek's wins at Heavy more highly than Hayes. They both beat average guys, but not tomato cans. Haye belongs in the top ten, but can't crack the top 5 until he fights at least one decent guy at heavyweight.

    Sure Chag, Chambers, and the Arreola that Adamek beat have all come off losses to the Klits. But Haye would too - and it's pretty clear that he knows it. So how can he possibly be ranked so high?
     
    rushman, Jun 5, 2010
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  11. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Adameck had 1 win over a top 10 guys at Heavy. Arreola and Chambers both coming of losses. Chambers has decent wins which is why he is still top 6. Arreola has no wins over a top 10 Heavyweight and has lost every time he stepped up.

    Chagaev has 1 win where he looked awful since the Wlad loss and Povetkin has done nothing since his win over Chambers.

    Haye has 2 wins over top 10 guys in Valuev and Ruiz (at the time). He also came up to HW as the Champion at Cruiserweight. Don't say that doesn't matter at Heavyweight because every other champions and highly ranked guys that moves up gets a top 10 rankings (Caballero, Adameck, Darchinyan, Donaire, JM Lopez and before losses Arthur Abraham and Jermain Taylor)
     
    robpalmer135, Jun 5, 2010
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  12. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ruiz wasnt top 10 when Haye fought him.
     
    Wiesiek, Jun 5, 2010
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  13. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Champ: Wladimir Klitschko
    1. Vitali Klitschko
    2. Povetkin
    3. Haye
    4. Chagaev
    5. Chambers
    6. Adamek
    7. Tony Thompson
    8. Valuev
    9. Samuel Peter
    10. Solis
    11. Arreola
    12. Boytsov
    13. Sosnowski
    14. Dimitrenko
    15. Ustinov
     
    Mordechai, Jun 5, 2010
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  14. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    yes he was. With ESB, The Ring and ESPN.
     
    robpalmer135, Jun 6, 2010
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  15. bruthead

    bruthead REAL TALK Full Member

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    Where's Audley?
     
    bruthead, Jun 6, 2010
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