Eastside Boxing Rankings debate: The Cruiserweights

Lebedev and alexeev definitely higher. And what the f*** is hernandez doing at the 4th place? , shold hang somewhere around 12-15.

 

I say no on this one. Cunningham has a win and a loss to Wladarczyk more than three years ago, a win over Huck nearly three years ago.

Mormeck was linear champion when Cunningham was beating Wlodarczyk, Haye had beaten Mormeck by the time Cunningham beat Huck. Adamek has been through the division and beaten Cunnigham since. I think it would be too much of an inheritance on the basis of better fighters leaving the division and on the basis of old history. Huck is better now than when Cunnigham beat him. Wlodarczyk may be better. Cunningham may not be as good.

My answer to (2) is 'probably', basing it on three and a bit decent-ish rounds. But it's hard to say for the reason you identify, hard to say in this division.

 

drozd is too high imo
EDIT: i think the ring ranking is pretty good (despite erdei's place)

 

Champion: Vacant
1. Marco Huck
2. Steve Cunningham
3. Krzystof Wlodarczyk
4. Ola Afolabi
5. Gregory Drozd
6. Troy Ross
7. Dennis Lebedev
8. Alex Alexeev
9. Matt Godfrey
10. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
11. Giacobbe Fragomeni
12. BJ Flores
13. Herbie Hide
14. Alexader Frenkel
15. Steve Herelius

I rate Huck above Cunningham, as he has had several convincing wins against solid oppositon in recent times, whereas Cunningham has struggled somewhat against the same level of opposition. Oflabi performed very well against Huck and has wins over both Ramirez and Maccarinelli; he'll still be a force if he is not avoided. I think Godfrey has been very underrated as well, especially considering the fact that he has fought and won against solid opposition. Cruiserweight is really anyone's division right now, as it has several good fighters, but no figure that stands out above the rest. Looks like it's up to the young gerneration (Alexeev, Hernandez, Flores, Frankel, etc) to provide some stability.

 

Drop Danny Green - that guy is fighting in between divisions.

 

I have the same top3.
1. Steve Cunningham
2. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
3. Marco Huck

No, Cunningham shouldnt be a champ. I like Ross at 6. He looked really good, definitely top10.

 

oh yeah, and danny green shouldnt even be there, Some1 like frenkel would kick his ass very bad and he's not even on the list. Green is more a lighthw than cw.

 

Troy Ross a bit lower, hasn't proven anything yet to be ranked so high, Lebedev a couple of places higher. Green shouldn't be there, he's irrelevant and a 180lb fighter, not even a proper cruiserweight. Put Frenkel in there at the lower end.

 

USS or huck number one in my opinion

 

Drozd at #4 seems absurdly high to me. His best wins are over shot to **** Darnell Wilson and even shotter to **** Rob Calloway. I would have Lebedev ahead of him for sure, and probably a few others as well. I wouldn't complain one whit if you dropped him all the way to #11.

I disagree with removing Green. His last three fights have been over the LHW limit, as will be his next one. Although all of those fights were against LHWs. Who knows I guess.

I'm fine with Ross at #6. I might even put him higher based on H2H. He pretty clearly beats Huck in my mind.

Cunningham shouldn't be champ, even though he's beaten all the other titlists. He had his chance to be champ and lost to Adamek. Can't pretend like Haye and/or Adamek weren't around when he beat those guys.

Going to 15, I feel like Pawel Kolodziej is an omission. His record, on paper, is better than Drozd's, and he's a better boxer than Drozd as well. I would also consider Wayne Braithwaite for the back end of the top 15, as he did fight recently, and beat Hernandez not long ago.

 

I would go like this:

Linear champion: vacant
1. Steve Cunningham
2. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
3. Marco Huck
4. Ola Afolabi
5. Victor Emilio Ramirez
6. Dennis Lebedev
7. Troy Ross
8. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
9. Alexander Alexeev
10. Guilhermo Jones (could be significantly higher but gets this place due to inactivity)
11. Fragomeni
12. Arslan
13. Grigory Drozd
14. Enzo Macceranelli
15. Alexander Frenkel/BJ Flores/Hide/Brudov/Godfrey/Palacios


Danny Green does not get ranked because he is not really fighting at CW, he's more about having lucrative exibition bouts.