Eastside Boxing World Rankings debate: The Welterweights

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  1. robpalmer135

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    Current ESB World rankings at Welterweight. Let me know your thoughts.

    Welterweight
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    4. Shane Mosley
    5. Joshua Clottey
    6. Luis Collazo
    7. Jan Zaveck (IBF)
    8. Vyacheslav Senchenko (WBA)
    9. Rafal Jackiewicz
    10. Delvin Rodrigurez
    11. Alfonso Gomez
    12. Zab Judah
    13. Souleyme M'Baye
    14. Luis Carlos Abregu
    15. Mike Alvorado

    other fighters that could be ranked.

    Seluck Aydin

    Kell Brook
    Ionut Dan Ion
    Said Quali
    Sebastian Andres Lujan
    Randall Bailey

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    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224146[/url]
     
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  2. Hitman-Fan

    Hitman-Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You were doing well until I saw Alfonso Gomez

    FAIL :patsch
     
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  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Alfonso out

    Judah hasnt won a good fight in a long time get him out

    Put in Bailey and Ayudin
     
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  4. roversbowers

    roversbowers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    whys shane mosley so high?
    he won 1 round in his last fight and lost heavily to pbf.
    he was getting outboxed by mayorga until ko'ing him in the last, i even think he was down on 1 scorecard. and mayorga is hardly a slick boxer.
    he got outboxed and lost to cotto.
    he had a good win against margarito.

    1 good win out of 4 shouldnt constitute a top 4 placing IMO.
     
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  5. leocouture

    leocouture Chinchecker KILLA!!!!!! G Full Member

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    all reasonable......
     
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  6. Trendkiller

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    Why is Pacquiao p4p#1 if Floyd is ww #1?
     
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  7. robpalmer135

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    Divisional rankings are based on what a fighter has done in that division. P4P is based on what a fighter has done overall in the last few years.

    Floyd resume at WW is better than Pacquiao. In all weights Manny is better.
     
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  8. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    so where should be ranked?
     
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  9. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed

    and on to the Moseley point I'm ok with him having a high ranking so he lost to the number 1 at the weight number 2 p4p no shame he probably beats every one else
     
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  10. robpalmer135

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    by the way Luis Colazzo will be removed from the Rankings next week due to in activity. Who should come in at 15 to replace him?
     
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  11. robpalmer135

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    ok how about

    Welterweight
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    4. Shane Mosley
    5. Joshua Clottey
    6. Luis Collazo
    7. Jan Zaveck (IBF)
    8. Vyacheslav Senchenko (WBA)
    9. Rafal Jackiewicz
    10. Delvin Rodrigurez
    11. Luis Carlos Abregu
    12. Mike Alvorado
    13. Souleyme M'Baye
    14. Zab Judah
    15. Randall Bailey
     
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  12. SportsLeader

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    Zab doesn't even make it into the to 25 in my opinion, and Collazo's a bit high isn't he?
     
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  13. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    Right now Judah would have no shot vs Bailey, but other than that the rankings are pretty good.

    God what a dismal division out fo the top three.



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  14. Gandul

    Gandul Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What about Cotto? He fought at 154 but he can still be ranked at 147 since he can still fight there.
     
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  15. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Those are good rankings.

    Pac and PBF is pretty much a toss up at 147. Pac is better p4p but Floyd is bigger.

    Mosley, Berto, and Clottey are all interchangeable. I guess this could easily be an A beats B beats C beats A scenario. Overall though I think Mosley is still top of those 3, then Clottey and then Berto though I think on styles Berto beats Mosley.

    After that you got Collazo and then the rest which I don't really know too much about.

    good job.
     
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