Economics for Haymon-NBC Deal

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by fatcity, Jan 15, 2015.


  1. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not a single fight reporter has explained how the economics of Haymons deal with NBC makes sense.We all know Haymon has paid 20 million to NBC to broadcast his series and an additional "few millions" has been set aside for marketing and advertising purposes.OK,I get that,however,there still remains the millions of dollars he has to pay the boxers,rental of venues,hotel,air fares,sanctioning fees and the list goes on.
    He apparently has "investors" and who these individuals are are presently unknown,and sponsors pay on an escalating scale-the more people watching the more the sponsors pay.Figuring NBC are in about 100 million homes(more or less) I would have to expect that at least 10% would have to catch these shows to make it close to a break even-and I just can't imagine there are that many boxing fans to carry this project.
    Something just doesn't add up.Discuss.
     
  2. MartyMaar

    MartyMaar Active Member Full Member

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    This move is a major breakthrough for Boxing and is designed to make boxing a mainstream sport. I can predict that a LOT more than 10% of those homes will be watching the March 7th card. Just think about it: Danny Garcia and Adrien Broner on NBC.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Who gives a ****? As long as the fights are free Network TV why does it matter? You have people complaining about good free fights on TV. Boxing fans.:-(
     
  4. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't understand why individuals get concerned about the economics of a boxing deal. There will be free network boxing for the first time in 30 yrs and I will enjoy it. That's my end, as I will not gain any lucre from this venture. I hope its successful because I Love following the sport. Haymon, DLH, Arum, and their machinations mean nothing to me, as long as we get fights. Haymon is getting the sport on the networks again which is good. Haymon and what he does is irrelevant to me, as long as he is producing events I want to see.
     
  5. jbuffett84

    jbuffett84 Active Member Full Member

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    Selling advertisements (commercials) is how he'll recoup money.

    It will be interesting to see if sponsors want to be associated with someone like Broner. His act might fly on premium cable, but his sort of antics won't go over well on NBC.

    I'm happy with the fights announced and hope the momentum continues. But people who worship Al are over the top. Good fights, but ones that could easily have gone down last year. This is the type of product that we should see regularly, but the standard was set so low in 2014 that people are going crazy with this announcement.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Has anyone ever thought that maybe Al was holding back on these fights because he knew he had something brewing with NBC this year and wanted to sell those fights to NBC. That IMO makes the most sense.
     
  7. southphillman

    southphillman Active Member Full Member

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    His investors are assuming all of the risk. NBC already has their money so they don't care about the ratings. It's up to Haymon to figure out how to make his investors their money back and with his track record i'm pretty sure it will be successful.

    As a fan I don't even like Haymon, but he is probably the best promoter/manager for FIGHTERS in the history of the sport. He builds up hypejobs and gets them huge guarantees. Compare that to Arum and Don King who made great fights but also kept all of the money.

    There is a reason why so many fighters love Al Haymon, you are even seeing LATINO fighters leaving Mexican owned GBP to go fight for him.
     
  8. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    This will be very interesting to see unfold over the course of the deal. The reason why boxing ended up going to the premium cable channels and PPV was to support the higher purses that boxers were demanding and network TV was no longer suitable to facilitate that.

    From the 80's until now, I really don't see the landscape changing too much. If network tv couldn't produce enough money to satisfy the fighters pay back then, I am skeptical that it will today over the course of the deal.
     
  9. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where did haymon get his money from and who are these investors

    Very very shady

    You know that the CIA secretly funded zuckerberg to set up Facebook as the perfect way to spy on anyone they wanted

    If arum isn't involved we can count out any Israeli money in the pot

    Who's calling the shots I wonder and why

    I can only imagine it's a CIA fronted company to create superstars in boxing who will follow the agenda

    If you follow hip hop closely it went to real rappers to slime today throwing up illuminati hand signs and promoting their agenda in their videos

    Boxing has and will always have a huge black and Latino Mexican audience- is this finally the way to infiltrate the Mexican masses to follow the satanic new world order by creating sell out 'celebrity' boxers

    Just like jay z sold out his soul like the Uncle Tom that he is
     
  10. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As far as a fighter,manger,promoter, etc go I care about their personal finances about as much as they care about mine......none.

    Being interested in the economics of this deal is a much different thing though.

    This is a big oppurtunity for boxing and I want to know about its success as much as possible be it ratings, economics, advertising, etc.

    Boxing has a lot riding on this Haymon venture. If it fails, while being time bought, then you forget boxing have any chance at network tv any time soon.

    If it succeeds than there are numerous positive outcomes that could come into play. NBC might go on for more than 2 years, other networks could become interested, new advertising partnerships formed etc.

    With a lot at stake here you'd actually think more people would be interested in the economics of this deal.
     
  11. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am really happy about the idea of this deal

    It could potentially create some huge stars

    I hope there is a uk partner for this

    I just don't trust the tranny lover

    The deal sounds great, he sounds like he is in the illuminati
     
  12. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  13. Constable

    Constable Boxing Junkie banned

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    there is a catch to it
     
  14. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When boxing is considered some kind of a passion, it is interesting to understand all the dimensions of it, the economics of a deal like that can make you understand why some match up are or are not being made, who is hyped and why, etc. I personnaly find a thread like this very informative.
     
  15. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The intent of this thread is not to knock Haymon nor boxing-it is an economics question.Not a single boxing journalist has tackled this question-they simply don't know and Haymon is not telling.
    It will take an investigation journalist to figure this enigma out-not a sports reporter.
    It just does not make sense but may if you follow the money and who these "investors" are.