Economics for Haymon-NBC Deal

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by fatcity, Jan 15, 2015.


  1. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Yeah, I don't like Haymon but good fights are good fights, can't complain. I wonder whether he'll keep this up though or will we be getting good fights initially and then **** from then on.
     
  2. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This would be my uneducated guess.
     
  3. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    Like I posted earlier, the reason why boxing went away from network tv in it's "heyday" was because they could not make enough money through advertising to pay for increasing fighter purses. This is why premium cable channels and PPV came in to play. If Haymon's fighters can get used to a fighter pay scale like the UFC has, then this could all work out. But with guys commanding million dollar paydays, I fail to see a positive outcome.
     
  4. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Haymon is very wealthy. He's been around for decades even before boxing
     
  5. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this could also destroy boxing by becoming a business show instead of foremost a sport. mandatory challengers to belt holders will be disregarded as what happened in the past ie. floyd throwing his belt when pac became mandatory which is contrary to the sport's traditions and rules. new people to boxing are trying to cash out on the sport but disregarding the boxing authorities.
     
  6. 941Jeremy

    941Jeremy Active Member Full Member

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    The only feasible way for it to make sense economically is if Haymon used this as a steppingstone to create the next boxing superstar, I'd assume he'd need several boxers from different weight classes to flourish. He'd make his money back from ppv events. Also perhaps he'd be capable of getting Floyd to return for his 50th and last fight on NBC, that'd be the Superbowl of boxing. Moreover, Haymon is pretty much monopolizing the boxing landscape right now. Expect Top Rank's and Golden Boy's potential stars to jump ship as soon as their contracts expire. HBO and Showtime will be forced to overpay for quality fights and for non quality fights as well e.g. Garcia vs Salka.
    And the ultimate goal would be securing high ratings during this two year contract with NBC. When the contract is up NBC and every other network will bid to pay Haymon this time around.
     
  7. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some business moves aren't designed with making money in the short-term.

    Have you ever heard of the term "speculate to accumulate"?

    In this sense, investing some money into the grass roots of a set of fighters and building household names brings future income.

    It might be the difference between someone being a top-end PPV fighter and a run of the mill undercard fighter.

    He manages so many of the boxers that boxing's financial interests align with his.
     
  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I doubt the money came from Haymons own pockets. There are articles that point to several groups that are affiliated with Haymon. He has others investing into it.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    NBC pays Haymon for his service.

    His service is to provide fighters which he exclusively "manages."

    Haymon keeps a % of the NBC money and then pays his fighters for their service.


    Pretty freakin' easy to figure out... People in this thread saying stuff like; "who are the secret investors???" "how will the fighters get paid?" "CIA needs to investigate Haymon some more," and "there isn't possibly enough money to go around!" are just dumb, really. No way to sugarcoat it.
     
  10. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    floyd's money.
     
  11. grindtime34

    grindtime34 Member Full Member

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    So NBC is investing in a "time buy" on their own network and essentially assuming no risk by making a risky investment in that time buy? Ok
     
  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    ? Um wasnt it Haymon who bought air time from NBC?
     
  13. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    pretty much this. if it was delahoya leading the charge hed have my full support but i just worry about haymon :huh
     
  14. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you in a mental institution or can't you read?Haymon PAYS NBC for the broadcast time.NBC pays Haymon a big fat ZERO?WTF don't you understand.The mind is a terrible thing to waste.:nut
     
  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Dan Rafael posted in his chat a few weeks back who some of the investors were one of them owns an MLS (Soccer) Team.