Eddie H revealing interview.

Lol the likes of Eddie Hearn, Bob Arum, Frank Warren have been caught completely off guard. Wilder has mostly been quite since the second fight demolition apart from 1-2 statements. He was not aggressively pursuing the rematch via social media activity and hence everyone felt he is not interested in a third fight

But in the last few weeks, we see clips of him with Malik Scott, then we have the arbitration decision. The likes of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, Bob Arum, Frank Warren, Eddie Hearn have been very vocal on social media whereas Wilder, Al Haymon, Shelly Finkel have operated in silence.

You can make up your own mind on which side has handled their business professionally

 

Not at all. Match room has plenty of resources and means to figure out what is really going on. They have a brain, they have lawyers off their own that they could have consulted to analyze Wilders chances of winning the arbitration.

Eddie Hearns was behind this nefarious this plot to get Fury to violate his contract with Wilder and he is now playing the media that he has nothing to do with this and that he is the victim here and this is all Bob Arum, Frank Warren's, Tyson Furys fault

 

1. Hearn's a fool for trusting anything from a fellow liar (and competitor) in Arum.
2. Hearn knew there was a legal case going on and even the public knew it was about Wilder forcing a fight, so he didn't need the precise details to understand the threat.
3. Hearn has enough money to pay lawyers to research the ramifications of Wilder winning such a case.
4. Fury even hinted he might still have to fight Wilder a number of times.
5. Knowing that Wilder could bust the show with a legal challenge, even if it's a small chance of victory, you don't go and promise the biggest fight ever and make all the arrangements.
6. Hearn probably had other motives to do this by himself and jump the gun, like pocketing more for himself and having more control. It wasn't because he's such a noble guy doing it for ''boxing''. He's just using that narrative now to play the victim and deflect blame.
7. LOL at the fight being sabotaged by Winkel and Deontay Dent Head. Arabs and AJ are really mad at Hearn now!

 

Calm down kid

 

This basically. I am pretty certain Hearns was in Cahoots with Bob Arum, Frank Warren in trying to get Fury to walk out of his rematch clause with Wilder and arrogantly felt Wilder had no case. He is now cleverly playing the victim card whereas he has equally been exposed with an assortment of eggs on his face like Bob Arum, Frank Warren from the Trio of Al Hayman and Shelly Finkel.

 

No way does Wilder deserve to be paid $20 million for doing nothing !
That's a crazy suggestion.

Fury beats Wilder in July for $15 million or whatever it will be, then fights AJ next for maybe $100 million .... that makes the most financial sense, obviously, considering the situation.

 

Because they genuinely were trying to get out of the 3rd Wilder fight, that's the most likely explanation.

 

Yes, but no one believed that.
Most of us hoped that Arum was mostly correct or that the thing could be ironed out, but no one believed the arbitrations were a complete non-issue.

Hearn didn't believe it. He can't have done. But he correctly, and understandably, distanced himself from the thing from the start. He kept saying "they assure me that won't be a problem" .... which doesn't mean he believed them at all, but he did right to make that clear from the start. He knew - we all knew - there was a chance Wilder's side would win and make a 3rd fight the most sensible route for Fury, all things considered.

Bob Arum was often quite open about the thing being an issue, in public statements. He kept saying Fury might be fighting Wilder. He got the arbitration thing wrong but it's a stretch to assume they knew they'd lose all along. In fact, it makes no sense. There's no reason whatsoever for them to have to go through a pretense of being open to the AJ fight at all, and go through a sham arbitration, there's no motivation at all.
That's where the anti-Fury/anti-Arum conspiracies fall down. There's no motive, and there's no reason to believe Eddie Hearn was completely duped either because Hearn's clearly not an idiot either.

 

The whole situation is a lot more simple and a lot less conspiratorial than some of this forum thing it is.
Like I've said several times, the Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder situation in 2021 is just a rewind to where we were in 2020, that's the judge's ruling. And it's nothing to get upset about.

 

Exactly.
In fact, even most laymen, unless you're completely naive about the world, would take a statement "the arbitration won't be an issue" with a pinch of salt. Obviously, the arbitration was always an issue in the background. That was no secret to anyone. Even most knowledgeable fans thought Wilder might win but hoped it would be straightened out.
Bob Arum probably genuinely thought he'd win, there's no reason to think otherwise, but no doubt he would exaggerate his confidence in winning to other people, to put on the front. Anyone would. You don't win by going around saying you might lose every time someone asks about it.

But now I'm just stating the obvious. I don't know if this forum is full of naive children or mentally deficient people or crazy conspiracists, but I'm surprised this whole situation has caused so much confusion. It seems very simple to me.

 

If matchroom had access to the wilder v Fury contract Hearn would never have tried to make AJ v Fury. Bob Arum lied.

 

But even if Bob Arum lied, what's the story there ?
No one has ever mistaken Arum for being 100% truthful and 100% accurate, so what's the point ?

The biggest lie, well, the most unbelievable LIE here is that Eddie Hearn was duped by Bob Arum.
That's the narrative Hearn seems to be imparting on a certain section of the fans.
It's ridiculous.

Hearn's trying way too hard to make himself seem innocent and blameless.
Where in fact there's really not much wrong with the situation to spend much time blaming anyone.
Nobody, including Hearn, has done much wrong.

 

I think he has a point in regard to actually trying to get the fight made. Why was matchroom the only ones who were trying to get the site fee, the huge purses etc etc.

 

The are all complicit since they all knew Wilder still had a legal hold over Fury to a third fight.

Hearn knew it , Fury knew it. They all knew it. .. Promoters don't have any short terms plans. They plan ahead and always have option b , c and d. They only tell fans and media about short term plans

 

Because Eddie Hearn believed in the Saudi money and believed that the fight could be huge in 2021, despite the covid pandemic still effecting many parts of the world (including the UK, it seems).
Eddie Hearn gets all the credit for getting the deal done as far as he did.
We knew all along that Bob Arum didn't believe that such huge purses could be found right now, and we knew he resented Hearn's possible ability to go and get some partners who would in fact be prepared to pay up ......

None of that makes Bob Arum look good.
It all reflects well on Eddie Hearn.
But it's a stretch to think Arum stitched Hearn up by going through a sham arbitration case in an attempt to free up Fury's options.