Eddie Hearn losing the plot. FUMES over Wilder / Joshua / Fury situation

I referred to Lawyers taking on winnable cases as an analogy for fighters and their teams taking on winnable fights you moron. Every trainer and fighter sizes up the opponent before signing, saying he knows what to do… he knows the approach etc. And guess what, Fury and Miller are more Winnable as I will explain.

Critical thinking definition:

Mode of thinking — about any subject, content, or problem — in which the thinker improves the quality of his or her thinking by skillfully analyzing, assessing, and reconstructing it.

I analysed all the actions out of team AJ since the Chisora v Whyte 2 fight, and there are plenty of actions to reflect upon. And I took into account prior history regarding the promotional build up for a rematch in April. Business behaviour and changes in narrative give good indications as to your true intentions.

Stop burying your head in the sand.

“But i haven't been going round talking about Fury the way you do Whyte”

So what? That doesn’t mean I think he is god’s gift to boxing, stop making **** up and putting words in my mouth.

It is painfully obvious what the issue is here, you are terrible at inferring pretty much anything!

You failed to infer that I support Whyte, instead you claim I see him as a boxing legend because he is in my Avatar and I talk about him a lot. Oh ok....

You can’t infer that the Whyte v AJ narrative has become obscured by the same promotion that pushed the narrative incessantly for most of 2018.

“Who cares hpw much it was built-up”

You are deliberately being ignorant, a promotional organisation like matchroom would not waste time selling a narrative for months on end, and putting in all the promotional ques like AJ ringside for the Chisora rematch if they did not want to steer or prime the public to go see it.

Jarrel Miller came out of nowhere, following the Chisora fight, this man not part of the narrative, and he wasn’t even mentioned in the pecking order for an April matchup. Another fact you choose to ignore because your deduction skills are pathetic.

When Whyte got lowballed an offer, knowing full well it would do great numbers at Wembley, and that Whyte is a proven draw… and the fact that Miller has surfaced as a replacement for Whyte almost immediately can only mean ONE THING. Team AJ are not serious about taking on Whyte because he represents risk.


Your crap opinion on Whyte’s chances against AJ is based off of 2015, which only a ignoramus like yourself would bring up a matched performance that is that outdated.


My opinion of Dillian’s heightened risk to AJ is based on how he KO’d Chisora, a guy that rarely ever get’s KO’d, and flooring Parker a guy that has never been floored before.

It is obvious he is a danger to AJ's chin, and more than just a punchers chance.

Miller and Fury aren’t KO machines, it can be slugged out without AJ worrying.

So continue ignoring these facts, and insult the forums intelligence. I’ll be here to expose your BS.

Go use the search function and find my last thread on Whyte before you open your mouth on who I think is gods gift to boxing.

And put him on a pedestal? Again being a moron, Whyte has done that himself by getting ranked #4. Who did I say was scared of Whyte?

A duck doesn’t have to indicate fear, it can indicate reducing risk which is what I’ve said a million times now.

AJ is not scared of Whyte. Happy?

So you are telling me now that the forum and most of the market did not figure Whyte to be facing AJ in April?

Even BEFORE he beat Chisora? And if Wilder and Fury don't sign... and AJ goes with Miller it ain't a duck yeah??? OK ABC.

Yeah… I am the crazy one here.

 

Hilarious, funny how Ortiz is gods gift to boxing when he only beat Jennings, but yeah let's critique the **** out of Whyte's resume. You people amaze me.

Parker never been floored went 12 rounds with AJ. And Whyte floored him with one punch in 9 rounds.

Chisora only been KO'd ONCE prior in his whole career of 38 fights.

I'll give you Lucas browne... even though I still think it is impressive KO... still going down in history and #1 of 2018 but w.e.
But your triangular theory with Fury/Chagaev is BS. Chisora KO'd Takam who went distance with AJ????? SO?????????


"Don't make out he's been blasting out iron-jawed Heavyweights."

Even your best friend AJ said Whyte ain't gonna knock out Chisora because Chisora has that "Old school granite chin" or would you like for me to show you the video where he said that?

Do you concede? Or do you know more than AJ about boxing?

Now stop talking bollocks yourself. Only one here denying Whyte's KO power SO STFU.

Whyte floored Parker which AJ couldn't do??? Why?????????? He is all powerful over Whyte??????

Whyte KO'd Chisora who KO'd Takam... Takam went distance with AJ????? Why couldn't AJ knockout Takam????? The ALL powerful AJ over Whyte????

 

Fact is... Chisora did what AJ couldn't with Takam.... lil old "past prime" old man Chisora.

Whyte the supposed weakling in comparison to AJ floored Parker in 9 rounds. AJ couldn't do it in 12 rounds.

But please continue overhyping.

Put fingers in ears and sing la la la la ...that's not true Aydamn! Nope.

 

okay....so show me this analysis....

That's not the reason i said you think he's gods gift....that was the reason you can't infer the same about me thinking that about Fury...next. And i'm sure everyone is well aware that you're Whyte fan, but it's the things you say about him, nothing to do with your avi. If i'm terrible at inferring, you must be borderline braindead.

Not burying my head in the sand as i have acknowledged that many times to you.

I'm not terrible at inferring. Even i i did hyperbolise on the "gods gift" point, one swallow does not a summer make.

I'm not being ignorant you div. read what i am saying. Matchroom and Sky have tried to create interest in the rematch, yes, obviously, but if circumstances change and a bigger, ore important fight comes along, they can change their mind. It's irrelevant because n oone can predict the future and know what situations can arise....understand now?

Miller didn't come out of nowhere, they've always spoke about him as an option in America. But of course, i ignored it because we are talking about your original "If AJ fights Fury instead of Whyte, it's a duck" comment, so it's entirely irrelevant to this conversation, no idea why you've even brought it up tbh.

i've never said "the only reason i believe Whyte gets beat by AJ is because of 2015"...that would just be plain stupid. Do you really need to make stuff up to make your opinion look better? that's poor man.

Stop bringing Miller into this conversation. We're talking about Fury/Joshua/Whyte.

i didn't ignore these facts, because everyone knows Fury isn't a KO artist...stop stating the obvious, it isn't helping your argument.

I have simply stated that fighting Fury over Whyte is not a duck....in any way shape or form...same way i believe Khan fighting Crawford is in no way a duck.

He wouldn't be reducing risk as it's more likely Fury would beat him than Whyte.

Being number 4 is putting himself on a pedestal? low standards you must have if you believe that

yes everyone expected Whyte next...and? If he goes with Miller, yes, that is them ducking Whyte, but once again...WE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THAT.

yes...you really do seem crazy. i'm done with this now, you have to go off on tangents to boost your argument, i'm busy at work and we'll never, ever agree, so it's futile.

 

Cool, just for the record I believe :

• Whyte struggles to beat Fury
• Fury struggles to beat AJ
• Whyte has a good chance of beating AJ

All because styles make fights. So no I do not think Whyte is superior in general if I believe he loses to Fury.

 

Why the **** are you bringing Ortiz into this conversation? He's overhyped to hell on this forum so **** knows what he's got to do with anything you oddball.

You can harp on about Whyte's brutal KO power all you want. His ONLY notable KO is Derek Chisora. That is it. He has a respectable 69% KO ratio - but nothing to rave about.

The only facts here are that AJ has already sparked out Whyte. And may I add that before he took him out, he also took Whyte's super-duper left hook on the button.

AJ wobbled? Yes.
AJ dropped? No.
AJ recover by the next round? Yes.
AJ win? Yes, via brutal KO.

 

Yeah back in 2015, which is where you belong. Stop posting in 2019, you are old news. Things have moved on, fighters have progressed yadda yadda.

 

i fully get and see where you're coming from with this.

I know that may look sarcastic, but i am being serious

 

Correct - things have moved on and fighter's have progressed.

You've finally said something sensible. Grab yourself a biscuit.

 

Then why bang on about 2015 and Whyte getting KTFO? Whyte whooped AJ in the amateurs?

It is the exact same relevancy. Whyte had no amateur pedigree of note and learnt on the job, so he has progressed a hell of a lot since that 2015 fight... he is not the same guy today.

If you say Whyte has a good chance against AJ today, you would deserve a biscuit too.

But only I am eating biscuits right now.

 

I will when you actually answer my question.

 

Because you came out with the monumentally stupid claim that "AJ knows he can beat Fury, he doesn't know he can beat Whyte", when in fact the exact opposite applies.

Whyte has progressed I agree, but so has AJ. He's more well rounded, he can box tactically for 12 rounds instead of just looking like a KO artist. Whyte still had stamina issues against Parker and also showed his chin isn't all that - another 10 or 20 seconds and he'd have lost.

Don't forget, since AJ Whyte 1, AJ has

Become WBA, WBO & IBF (and IBO, but nobody really cares about that)
KO'd Martin, Breazeale, Molina, Klitschko, Takam & Povetkin
UD Parker

He's greatly improved since knocking out Whyte.

I believe Whyte has a slim chance against AJ, and it would be down to AJ fighting recklessly again instead of picking him off and getting the KO when the situation presents itself.

Good, enjoy.

 

I have answered.....Read my post Again! And answer my question then..

 

Whyte although full deserves a shot, AJ is levels above him. I don't rate Whyte's chin at all. Joshua wobbled him at will in their first fight. Whyte's best chance of becoming a world champion would be if Wilder grew a pair and fought him. I believe Whyte beats Wilder by KO.

 

Outside of Breazeale name me one fighter who took that amount of AJ punishment clean and flush and didn't go down till the 7th. And breazeale wasn't even competitive with AJ like Dillian was.

The 12 round Parker thing was just a good punch at the right time... a punch any heavy could have landed on any other heavy and had the same effect. That's why it's heavies.

Whyte can KO AJ just as easily as Wilder. Chisora is durable and stocky and kept his head down low most of the time and Dillian still caught him.

AJ is no different, and not that many levels above Dillian. This is just hearsay.

Don't be a sheep.