Eddie Hearn

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  1. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    it was an opinion I was wrong, I was right say ggg would walk through kell you've not mentioned that?
    Or are you one of the fools that though that fight at anytime was close and a shock was on the cards, let me guess fool
     
  2. billy nelson

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    hes been backed into a corner because he couldn't get a straight shot at 154lbs, if that was an option this fight wouldn't happen.
    Yes credit for taking it against a very good boxer,this could be a classic.
    Kell will be tested coming off a damaging loss, injury and trying to make the weight safely.
    Looking forward to this one
     
  3. Bent-nose

    Bent-nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The charming Billy throwing more insults about.
    Wow, that was brave you picking GGG to beat Brook. You also said Porter would beat Brook. And Frankie Gavin.
     
  4. liger1992

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    Brook doesn't need a confidence fight. He came out of the GGG fight with his stock in tact and jumping back in at the top level is the best thing to do.

    Just as when froch lost to Ward and then jumped straight back in vs Bute. The correct thing to do.
     
  5. Mc2

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    Its another good point. Not ideal coming back after a beating...with a pretty serious eye injury straight up against according to a lot of insiders the next big thing from america. I know eddie probably didnt have the last say on it...but brook should never have been in with golovkin in the first place. The situation was crying out for eddie to stick his hand in his pocket and get a decent suitable name across. If brook loses...what happens then. Luckily eddie has the ability to turn any situation into a diamond because hes very good at talking his fighters up and getting the masses to beleive everything he says. But brooks in danger of finishing the game with one decent win a disputed one at that under his belt. Eddies matchmakings the weak link. Needs to get someone in to do it for him. He wont though because its driven by money and not the best interests of his fightets career. He sells it to the masses and his fighters like it is for their good but you ve got to look out for the fighters. Its a dangerous game. Even joshua v klitchko. We,re going from safe fights to klitchko its a hell of a jump. He could well do it. But i m pretty sure i ve heard boxers talk for years and every one of thems mentioned...you need to tick all the boxes first.

    Just to be clear i like eddie. And the business models not all bad. Hes done great for british boxing. But he needs to get his priorities straight. Dont put the money first and foremost...the money will come anyway. Hes putting money before the safety of the fighters for me. That linares v crolla fight did start looking dangerous. Brook v golovkin could have been dangerous. Even sticking joshua in against old men was dangerous...was it sprott i think...looked like he,d been keeping fit at the local boxercise club. Wasnt about money that one but i m pretty sure there we,re more suitable opponents out there for him. Even frankie gavin got him paid against brook but pretty much finished what he had left of his career that night.
     
  6. billy nelson

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    unltimatly it's a business and money will always dictate irrespective of who's promoting
     
  7. billy nelson

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    I'm a firm believer that if you move up in weight to fight either a mega fight or a world tile fight, then the belt you hold at the lower weight should vacated, there getting two bites of the cherry, whereas the fighters in the top 15 need to wait much long for the shot of the title which is of coarse unfair
     
  8. ashishwarrior

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    Billy trying to shyte on brook again I see
    Lol
    He will tell you next how burns is a better boxer than brook next

    Billy if burns had the stones to jump up to ww and challenge brook who you got
    And do you think burns would do better against brook than brook did with GGG
    Does burns see round five
    Does burns back kell up even once
     
  9. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Come off it. Brook did no worse vs Golovkin than plenty 160lbs fighters. You are talking as if any novice was going in the ring.

    Brook was a seasoned pro, undefeated world champ and not a tiny WW. The fight was a good fight to make and considering fans want fighters to aim for greatness I don't see what the issue was?

    Eddie Hearn is no worse than any other promoter who seeks to maximize as much revenue as possible. Not forgetting Kell Brook didn't have to take the fight. There was no gun to his head saying fighting GGG.
     
  10. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Some people obviously not get what a majority decision is
    It ain't a draw nor a split decision
    It mean the vast majority favoured the winning fighter yet its disputed
    If that is disputed what you call Thurman porter as that was closer than brooks on the cards
    There are many agendas round theses parts
     
  11. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The myth about Porter v Brook being close or contentious really needs to stop.
     
  12. Mc2

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    The thing is we,re all on here the next day when guys do get hurt in the ring giving condolences sometimes donations etc. Boxings a good crowd of people. But for me you ve got to do everything to minimise casualtys. You ll never stop it happening and a lot have came down to careless refs cornermen etc more than matchmaking. But there should defo be rules in place to stop some of these fights happening in the first place. If your moving up in weight i dont agree you can go and fight whoever you want to. Should need to prove your fine at the weight by fighting suitable opposition first for example. At the end of the day brook got his eye socket broken i think in the first or second round. Think he was hurt in the first 30 seconds of the fight. I understand these things can happen. Its a tough sport but you still have an obligation to these fighters if you promote them...manage them. Train them etc. Think the problem starts higher up tbh...but some of these guys dont help the situation. You ve got to look at the risk v reward. Which takes me back to burns. These guys no ones heard of. Their too good for him...its pretty clear at this point. Dont keep sticking him in with them. Find opponents you know about at least. Its part of the job. Think kevin mitchell was the same...he was finished. Was it barrious he put him in with. Another no namer at the time. Smashed mitchell. Historys already shown us a lot of these guys leave the game...on the way to being half braindead.

    Warren was a lot of things and he milked these wbo runs far too long...his motivation probably wasnt completely for the good of the fighters health...but financial as well. But he rarely failed to get his fighters in the big fights in the end...usually after a good run of form slowly building them up. For me far safer and better for all concerned. I m not saying you dont take the risky fights sometimes it does come down to risk/reward. But its a bit like a guy only thinking about making quick cash at the expense of evefything else. Good for the fans...but the sports bigger than just the fans. You can get a middle ground everyones happy with. Eddies going from fighting mugs...to going in with a top guy etc. If hes not interested in the long terms ...its sometimes top guy then another top guy back to back.
     
  13. Mc2

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    I actually thought porter won it. Brooks done the cleaner work but porter done just enough. It was close either way. Think the fight got pulled from youtube but watched it twice and thought the same both times. I rate porter tho...tough nites work for anyone.
     
  14. ashishwarrior

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    Its an easy way to try and discredit his achievement
    Porter was a mini tank a banger you know like the hype spence gets at the min
    He went over there and handled him effectively if that was Floyd in there it would of been a boxing masterclass
    People here going on about holding have no issues with Vlad's clinching khans headlocks and pushing tactics hell even joes speedy slaps
    He went and beat the American champ on home turf now he is giving the next second coming as chance on his watch when he beats Spence how they will try a discredit that win
     
  15. Mc2

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    You around the brook camp ashish or just a big fan. Agree porter was a mini tank...good solid fighter that ll test anyone at the weight. Good win for brook. Razor tight for me...but big achievement going over there and getting the win. Just a pity his career path all hangs on spence. I fancy him to beat spence but the timing couldnt really be any worse for him. Just hope he can do the weight effectively.