Eddie Hearns: Only AJ is allowed to duck mandatories to have a rematch, if Wilder does it I'll sue!

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You truly believe he feared "No defense Sugartits" Breazale and fought Parker instead as an easy out? LOL
     
  2. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 IF HE DIES HE DIES! Full Member

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    Who's crying and praying for Ortiz?

    I've simply explained why Ortiz is a much better fighter than Dillian ****ing Whyte who by evidence presented, he himself believes so, since he previously ducked Ortiz like the plague.

    He obviously didn't believe he was a match for Breazelle either who I'd say would have beaten Whyte, otherwise he'd have bitten off the chance to fight him for mandatory position.

    I don't really wish to see the rematch with Ortiz, but there is stronger argument for a rematch with Ortiz than there is with a fight with Dillian Whyte, who is yet to legitimately earn his shot and instead wishes to jump the queue. On top of that you have his owner who wants to pretend he can influence and dictate what Wilder and Fury decide to do with their respective careers.
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 IF HE DIES HE DIES! Full Member

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    Explain why he didn't fight Breazelle, when there was much more on the table? A chance to make a statement in America and a fight with Wilder?

    He took the parker fight, because he was assured he would have things in his favor. Why do you think as soon as the bell rang he broke every single rule in boxing? I'll answer, because he knew he had a ref who was going to turn a blind eye and all that was required of him was to go the distance and the judges would take of the rest.

    Whyte has as much credibility claiming victory over parker, as kate taylor has over claiming victory over Persoon. Both illegitimate wins, though at least Katie has the balls to give her opponent a rematch to settle things properly.
     
  4. UKboxingfan

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    Much more money in the Parker fight and a much harder fight than Brezeale or Ortiz. Dry the tears mate!
     
  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 IF HE DIES HE DIES! Full Member

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    There are no tears here, since I'm not arguing a case or threatening lawsuits on behalf of a glorified bum.

    Instead, you wish to overrate and overhype a euro bum, and those who know boxing will set you straight.

    Though I now realise, I'm dealing with a hardened troll.

    Your argument now is that Whyte fought for the money. That only shows that for Whyte, money took precedence over a title shot. That where his priorities lie since he knows he's not got what it takes to be a belt holder beyond that silver trash can charity belt he currently parades around with.

    The man stands no chance against Fury or Wilder. Fury would toy around with him and wilder would literally tube him up to a life support machine.. This is the equivalent of someone arguing that Lomachenko needs to fight Crolla before they actually fought. And what happened to Crollla? He got wiped out and put flat on his face as if he was left in the gutter for dead.

    As for parker being a harder fight than Ortiz, how exactly, when parker couldn't crack an egg?

    A guy who struggled to put a dent in Hughie Fury, a guy who arguably lost against Ruiz. A guy who equally struggled to finish 12 rounds with Whyte before almost collapsing himself from exhaustion.

    And still he did enough to win. Ortiz's would've knocked the mindless Whyte out without any problems.
     
  6. N17

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    We can be in possession of facts with regards to you pretty much saying "Hearn is only pushing Whyte now because AJ lost"

    That's not an opinion, that is a complete misrepresentation of what has happened over the past 18 months.

    I listed some (just some) of the things Hearn has done for Whyte over the past few years, long before AJ lost.


    It would be very different if Whyte was still fighting down the bill on cards, not the number one with the WBC and was in meaningless fights and going nowhere. Then I would actually agree.

    Hearn made multiple offers to Wilder on Whytes behalf, Wilder refused, point blank, he was offered multi millions and fought other opponents for far less money, that was long before AJ lost, so how can you say Hearn is only pushing Whyte now?

    So to say Hearn is only pushing Whyte because AJ lost is just so far from the truth, also let's not forget Whyte was also offered a shot at AJ, Whyte turned it down, that was his choice, he wants the WBC shot, maybe he should have taken it looking at AJ the other weekend.

    So Hearn has already offered Whyte a world title shot, tried on several occasions to get him another one against Wilder and he is and has been pushing hard for another one right now and has been for quite some time.
     
  7. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty much what I said?... not good enough. Let's deal with what I actually wrote:

    'because Whyte is not Hearn's priority*. Or even one at all... until AJ lost and Hearn needs to make some noise outside a party he's just been ejected from.'

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    'something that is very important and must be dealt with before other things'

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    If Whyte was a priority, Hearn would not have waited 600 days to hint at flexing his legal muscles. Yeah, Whyte has made good money from Matchroom but, in my opinion, as a pawn on the board to fulfill the needs of a primary purpose (PPV obligations, AJ's career needs), never the king, ergo: not the priority. He felt the AJ offer was low-ball, that's his opinion.

    Anyway, we both call it as we see it, and see it differently. Time to move on....
     
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  8. N17

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    "Hearn is a great promoter but only when it suits his agenda. AJ loses and suddenly Hearn mentions Whyte's name. It's so transparent, it's laughable..."



    Your quote, your words, "AJ loses and suddenly mentions Whytes name"

    Simply not true, Hearn made multiple offers to Wilder, offered Whyte a shot at AJ 2-3 months ago, long before AJ lost.

    Hearn has had meeting and conversations with the WBC, this isn't "suddenly" and it isn't only because AJ lost.
     
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  9. N17

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    Just listen to that, yes it's a little long, around 15 minutes but it's a YEAR OLD.

    A YEAR OLD, listen to the timeline, listen to the conversations Hearn had with the WBC, listen to how the WBC promised shots, Whyte and Breazeale was suppose to be a final eliminator but Breazeale turned it down and fought Molina, then the WBC ordered final eliminator between Whyte and Ortiz then randomly made Breazeale mandatory.

    It goes on and on and on.. and that's a year old.. over a year ago so for you to say Hearn only comes out know AJ has lost is just wrong.

    Hearn has been pushing for Whyte for long time, a very long time, they have both shown patience, understanding and professionalism.

    Then last week they get Team Wilder saying.. Ortiz next, Fury after and more than likely a 3rd Fury fight. So they are looking at maybe 2021.. we are in 2019 and they have been waiting well over a year.

    Final straw, how much longer does Whyte have to wait, how many more promoises broken, so they have no other option but to threaten some kind of legal action.

    The WBC have left them zero choice and I believe Hearn wouldn't have mentioned it if they didn't have a strong case, they are letting the WBC know well in advance that Wilder telling the world his next 3 fights over the next 18 months can't be accepted.
     
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  10. DoubleJab666

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    He's also good box office in the build up to fights and, although pretty limited technically, is always willing to fight once the bell rings. I'd like to see him get his chance. The IBF will probably strip Ruiz so that's another possible route....
     
  11. UKboxingfan

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    Facts.
     
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  12. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    MR goons believe Eddie has a strong case against the WBC for not bending over backwards to accodate a bum who refused to fight in mandatory eliminators :lol:

    Eddie Hearn is all bark and no bite. I ensure all, he will not bother wasting his own time in trying to file a lawsuit against anyone, let alone Al Haymon and Bob Arum.

    He would not get anywhere. His words are to make himself appear tough amongst his fans and renigt some delusional belief back into his supporter that he is in control and is in a strong position, when the reality is that he is merely pissing in the wind.

    His best solution is to place all hope and stock into Usyk, the only credible fighter amongst his ranks. Unfortunately he is not British so is placed on the back burner while fodder like AJ and Dillian the scrub get pushed and promoted as if they're invincible supermen.
     
  13. Power_tek

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    excellent wording mate impressive LMAO genius
     
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  14. Power_tek

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    the day that boxing/boxers/promoters get that petty is a sad sad day and i would say the day i fall out of love with the sport, but i think the corruption will get to me first.
     
  15. Quina74

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    How can you call anyone a casual? There are a lot of silly posters on here but your posts just make me facepalm when I see them because they're always riddled with dumb BS.

    Who did Wilder fight for before his title shot and for the title? Absolute nobody you complete imbecile. Whyte's resume before a title shot looks like gold compared to Wilders.
    Chisora - if you have ever seen Chisora fight before (which I doubt) he was in best condition I have ever seen, and constantly pressed the fight (and has never been knocked clean out before)
    Parker - whether you like it or not, it was a very competitive fight regardless of whether Whyte should have been deducted a point, in which Whyte KD Parker for the first time (Granite chin)
    Lucas Browne - beat a former WBA champion in Chagaev
    Helenius - is a very good fighter, just with a suspect chin and let's fight trail off

    In regards to what you say about Breazeale, it doesn't matter what the forum thinks because there are a lot of dumb posts. I and most people knew Wilder would have knock this walking punchbag out and so he did. The only way Breazeale could have won was by taking advantage of Wilder's dumbass balance, which he did, and stunned Wilder for a few seconds - unfortunately Wilder's right hand saved any requirement for a 2+ round fight.

    Wilder has yet to face a 100% in his prime top 5 (scratch that, 10!)
     

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