Eddie needs to sort these shows out

Good post i agree. In the aftermath of Froch-Groves i was expecting an outcry by the media especially the boxing media at Ringside and boxing news etc, but the whole thing got carpeted. Adam Smith and Johnny Nelson jumped to Howard Fosters defense by saying he is a world class official. Even after the Burns-Beltran decision it was the exact same, all hushed up and the people who had the proper platform to ask the question turned a blind eye to it. The funny thing is i remember experienced British official Richie Davies on Buncey's show giving it the big un "I'm firm, but fair straight down the middle so there will be no nonsense" A month or so later Davies reputation as a fair official was in tatters as he controversially scored the Burns-Beltran fight a DRAW! And we have to believe he and Foster are straight because the likes of Robert Smith, Eddie Hearn, Tris Dixon at BN ,Johnny Nelson and Adam Smith say so? Just as you said the sport is ruined by the people who surround it. But their not fit and proper people for the job IMO.

 

Listen mate, to understand business principles is to understand boxing promotion, why? because boxing promotion companies like any other company the world over have to turn over a profit to stay in business.

Therefore, if you understand the principles of how business works, you'll understand how fights do or don't get made.

Then learn the working parts of a boxing shows budget:

Fighter purse's, travel expenses, TV revenue (in most cases none), gate receipts, site fee's and so on ……………..

Like I said, fighters don't fight for free, Eddie Hearn and MR cannot make shows at a loss to appease you and boxing fans like you who don't understand the system. My take on Hearn and Match Room is that they are right down the middle i.e. they are making the best fights they can whilst making the right and justified amount of profit. As the stable grows and revenue gets higher he'll go one of two ways, he'll get greedy and monopolise boxing (highly unlikely given the Families wealth) or he'll make better fights more often.

 

Hearn has Sky so he has TV unlike most promoters because Sky gave him the monopoly. I know your obviously easy pleased, but just remember some people have higher standards than others

 

Regardless of his Sky TV deal his smaller shows will be operating at a loss or breaking even. So he's actually over performing in that respect. Sky gave Matchroom a backing because they bought into Eddie Hearn they recognised a man trying to do whats right by boxing, Eddie Hearn is the most admirable British boxing promoter in business.

Instead of sitting back talking shite and increasing your font size to over emphasise your toothless argument, go out and start your own promotion up, or put the gloves on and get down the gym :good

 

I've travelled from glasgow to Yorkshire to attend Dave Coldwell shows and the highest percentage of fights are quite even affairs and excellently run, Coldwell has a very bright future in boxing imo

 

What annoys me is I watched an interview with him the other day with IFilm and he was 6 out of the 16 fights were 50/50s. With the exception of Purdy they were all Southern Area bouts. Blokes with 3 losses already etx. There are so many good lightweights out there that can be matched for starters. His shows have been poor so far. That Wembley Area one (Barker v Rotolo) was one of the worst I have ever seen on Fight night

 

Who you talking to you Muppet? You sitting there behind your desk with your business acumen, huh talk about admin ego's.. Hearns show are sh!te and i'm not the only one complaining. And Hearn got the contract because of his dad its got nothing to do with sky recognizing a man trying to do what's right by boxing, its even laughable to suggest that since the cnut robbed the fans £15 for that sh!te ppv last month. Hearns done fcuk all, he's had everything handed to him on a plate and he's not deserved any of it, but you wouldn't have noticed that because your to busy licking his ar5e :smh
As for starting my own promotion up what chance would i have when there's better promoters out than me who are struggling because they don't have TV and Hearns tapping their fighters..

 

Well said man that's what I like to see a bit of conviction in peoples arguments.We don't give a **** about business acumen we are all about what goes on in the ring and right now Hearn is making a laughing stock of The British scene so take your head out of his butt pipe.

 

To understand what you are actually talking about is to understand business, if you don't, then you will fire out aimless, uneducated babble and continue to criticise people without knowing the facts. Or fully understand what goes into making fights.

Ryan the Lyon, I'm talking to you dick head! who else could I be talking to you thick ****?

Barry Hearn long washed his hands of boxing promoting, executives at Sky Sports have probably forgotten his name and what he even does. Sky where looking for one promotional outfit to centralise their boxing coverage, as it is tiring and cost heavy to play the promoter vs. promoter game. They chose Ricky Hatton who couldn't deliver, they re assessed and bought into Eddie Hearn who was in his first or second year as VP of Match Room Promotions. The rest is history. To criticise Matchroom for a PPV that SKY put on, is ridiculous, the PPV argument is over, PPV is in now and virtually any fighter who is even slightly known as reasonable commands PPV. This is the nature of boxing coverage nowadays.

Just for your information I'm 30 years old with 2 kids, a wife and a demanding professional life, I used to compete MMA and have boxed my whole life. I don't have fantasies over men any more, my last one was Brett the Hitman Heart in 1992. I say what I see, if you do not embrace what you need to know as a boxing fan (the politics behind match making) then you'll never know it, and you will ramble and rant about things you don't really understand.

Which is what you 2 are doing :good

 

Execs at SKY have forgotten Barry Hearn? Hahahaha. Yeah, you know who's behind the Darts don't you?

 

Wtf Brett Hart! Listen to yourself rambling on a load of shite. Hearn got involved in the David Haye - Audley Harrison ppv and since then he has had his head up the Sky execs (Barney & Adam) arse's since. If you want me to believe Sky have forgotten about Barry Hearn and what he does then your a total lying ****. Barry's involved in the darts, snooker and boxing and he's never off sky tv.

Sky were looking for one promotional outfit alright, but it wasn't Hatton promotions as you say, because they never renewed his contract even though he had a bigger and better stable of fighters than Matchroom. Sky decided to put their eggs into one basket and went for Daddy's boy even though he had hardly any fighters. Hearns plan was to fill the tv dates with prizefighters until he tapped enough of other promoters fighters up. Sky even offered wee Frank Maloney so many dates at first just to help fill the schedule up, but only if Hearn could promote David Price.

There are levels in boxing : The Fighters, Managers, Promoters, TV networks and the FANS and without the FANS boxing is nothing. So don't give me this shite about Hearn and MR can't afford not to make a profit from shows just to please the fans. I mean who the fcuk do you think you are you coming out with a statement like that? The customer is always right. Why don't you put yourself in a fans position with a beer in your hand when you look at shows, instead of your head in the books. Ffs if that's the way you live you life then you would be better off putting your head in the oven. Hearns shows are shite. I mean just look at the show Dennis Hobson put on at the weekend that was better than most of Hearns show's this year.
Another thing this is a boxing forum so you shouldn't be telling people about your private business, but since you brought up you have a demanding professional career just remember you have a wife and two kids.. I feel sorry for them having to spend the holidays with a boring mathematical company man dick like you :smh

 

mate you need to read what you've wrote, Barry Hearn supplies Sky with boxing, darts, pool and poker so they are hardly going to forget his name, I think you just have an agenda against a very sucsessful businessman

 

Why do you morons think Hearn has the Sky monopoly?

Answers on a postcard please.

 

As much as you may not agree you're confusing business with morals, the fans will always come (rightly or wrongly) check out the premier league as an example, no matter what they do boxing fans wont just 'turn off' thisr interest.

Its right in what you're saying in terms of the fans matter but to Sky they are not going to invest in a product that loses money for them, they dont need a loss leader and they could probably afford to lose some money on it but they are a huge company which refuses to. Boxing is quite niche, if fans stopped turning up, they would cancel the tv deals, reduce the domestic stable and stick with occasional prizefighters and world title fights.