Eder Jofre: Biggest disparity between resume and ATG standing?

As evidenced by my thread from the other day, I'm not convinced the consensus has Eder Jofre as high as top 30 OAT.

I think the way he moved up to Featherweight and was very successful helps his standing quite a lot, as he did dominate Bantamweight for a time and was pretty much blowing his opponents away. The manner of victory should be a factor in cases like this.

I will say though, before my thread had reached 5 pages, I was also under the impression Jofre was typically ranked top 20-30. The thread told a different story though, at least that's what I got from it.

 

His dominance and skill level play a great part in his general ranking, as did his highly successful comeback from retirement into the Featherweight division. I thought he may've deserved the verdict in the Harada rematch as well. I'll have to re-watch it sometime.

As it stands, his opposition was nothing to scoff at, as is. Not among the most stacked of resumes, but a lot of the guys he beat are generally overlooked. You rarely see a guy like Johnny Caldwell even mentioned among his scalps, despite being champion at the time and one of the more highly regarded British fighters of the period. A fine classic boxer in his own right.

 

exactly.....

 

The Harada fights are the only two fights i've watched of him. And i must say i was quite abit more impressed with Harada's style and ability and had him winning both fights close but clearly

 

I've only watched the first fight, but I agree. :good

 

great fight !!
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z-1BpBZyys[/ame]

 

I hear you. Jofre loses little to no ground with me for losing the Harada fights seeing as he essentially matched him blow for blow despite his advancing age, weight problems and being on Harada's turf. Interesting view on their second fight too in addition to the bit of appreciation for Caldwell - a man who seems to have become something of a forgotten champion even back here in the UK.

Jofre's overall CV would be easier to quantify if a little bit more was known about a few of his opponents: the Rollo's, Miranda's and Marques' of the world.

That said, Caldwell, Caraballo, Medel x2 and Legra are all very big wins for him in addition to the other numerous top contenders like Aoki, Elias, Jamito, Stevens, Crawford and the aforementioned trio of Rollo, Miranda and Marques. I suppose I can leave Saldivar out of it, past it as he was.

It's a pretty good body of work overall, if not exactly a threat to the CV's of Greb and Robinson. I'd say it's become a bit underrated due to the relative obscurity of some of the names. Combine it with the level of dominance with which Jofre attained it and I'd say that the disparity isn't nearly as big as what might appear to be on the surface.

 

His resume is nowhere near as some of those boasted by the fighters that deserved to be ranked above him, and for that reason only do most of them deserve to be ranked above him. I have no problems with acknowledging that Jofre was one of the best fighters of all time.

 

Biggest disparity? One of the biggest, not sure of the biggest though. That probably falls to Jimmy Wilde or Ricardo Lopez.

I suppose the lesson here is that you don't need to have a stacked resume to be regarded as an ATG if you have all the other facets working for you (h2h ability, dominance, longevity and character).

As has been said though, his resume was nothing to scoff at. It's still a better resume than the likes of Larry Holmes, Bob Foster, Aaron Pryor and Felix Trinidad compiled.

 

I think Aaron Pryor is probably the biggest disparity between resume and ATG standing.

 

Snatched the words from me before i had a chance to spit it out first. One of the best ever, but look at his resume.

 

I've seen him as high as top 30s myself, Teeto. It's crazy some of the names I often see below his.

 

That's madness to me, he should be nowhere in atg list imo. Such a good fighter though.

 

Just shows you how highly Alexis Arguello is regarded, because I tend to think a lot of those rankings are as a result of his two victories over The Explosive Thin Man.