Eder Jofre boxing skills outdated?

I doubt everyone here rates Joe Louis very, very highly.
Some might merely concede he was very good and great for his time

We've had guys on this forum saying they know novice amateurs wth a few months trainng would beat X, Y and Z filmed contender from the 1930s. I've seen posts to that effect. I don't really care to enter the debates too deeply because I see trolls and fanatics on both sides.
If you don't think so, that's good for you.

 

No about Louis's technique I've only seen universal acclaim.

 

Well, yeah, I agree with this.
I've been re-watching a bit of Carl Froch lately, and while I appreciate him more on viewing him more, he displays a stark and almost completely disregard for the textbook of technique.The people who claim "modern fighters" can't get away with doing all the wrong things, should consider that he was actually very successful at a high level (10-2 in world title fights) with a good resume, and even outboxed other world class fighters, doing a lot of things 'wrong'.

Having said that, Baer looks dreadful, probably significantly worse on average, than Foreman and Vitali.
Perhaps because he clowned around too much. He has himself to blame.

 

Yep, it's true your OP wasn't worded to the exact effect that "modernistas" don't think Pep et al weren't skilled. The fact that you used an 80-year old working a heavy bag as example seemed like you were trying to disprove argument that fighters from his generations weren't very skilled at all, and I wasn't alone in that interpretation, but it's true that you're exact word wasn't to that effect.

So to answer your OP, an 80-year old looking great on a heavy bag doesn't say anything one way or another to me whether there have been some degree of development since his day. It wouldn't surprise me if Pelé looks great with a football still, but it wouldn't tell me very much about whether football has developed since his time or not.

And now a question for you - do you feel that the consensus here think that the best from the 50's and 60's belong with the very best ever or not?

 

Punching technique is quite a bit of the whole, though. Very few, if any, HWs won't be seen as having some technical flaws if scrutinised. That goes for Tyson and Bowe as well and even more so Lewis and Vitaly etc.

 

I was watching Duran-Leonard 1 the other day to score it again and noticed Duran did a move that reminded me of Max Baer against Max Schmeling.
I think it was the 8th round.
Duran throws an awkward right hand that misses by miles and steps his back foot over clumsily, so he's all squared up.
It's not hard to find the part I mean. Duran, clearly embarrassed, then does a stepping dance for a few seconds in an obvious attempt to cover up how clumsy and lacking in technique he'd been with the initial move.
Baer does something similar against Schmeling but doesn't bother with the dance.

 

I don't really but Max Schmeling sure did. Braddock did too, fwiw.

 

Perhaps by some. Some probably go the other way.

But I feel that all the regulars on this forum has a tremendous respect for the skills of the top fighters from the 40's onward.

 

No, not one.