edison miranda on boxrec.com

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  1. MMAFIGHTER1

    MMAFIGHTER1 Member Full Member

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    How in the world does boxrec do their rankings? I saw they had both david banks (18 and allen green (27)above miranda(31) how does that make any sense he beat both of them and almost killed banks 4 ko of the yr. i just dont get it
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    The topic of BoxRec's rankings keeps coming up.

    BoxRec's rankings are based on an algorithm (mathematical formula) that calculates the quality of each win based on the resume of the beaten fighter, the duration of the fight, the margin of victory and several other variables. The info is just fed into a computer and rankings are spewed out the other end.

    It doesn't consider other intangibles, or special circumstances. Therefore, it's not really meant to be like RING's list, or your list, however you compile it.

    The algorithmic approach works very well for chess rankings, reasonably well for Tennis, but quite poorly for boxing.

    In chess and in tennis, this kind of thing works better because generally, if A can beat B, and B can beat C, then A can beat C.

    In boxing, that's often NOT the case.

    It should be treated in that light.
     
  3. MMAFIGHTER1

    MMAFIGHTER1 Member Full Member

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    Cool thanks. it still sucks haha
     
  4. ralphc

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    Yes, that is a very good explanation. I could add one thing to it though. Boxing is one of the most style oriented sports in the world. This is why Hopkins who was beaten by Taylor twice, beat Pavlik so easily despite the fact that Pavlik beat Taylor twice. It seems very strange to some people, but the way a man boxes determines how much difficulty he will give you depending on the way that you box.
     
  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Imagine trying to run a beauty contest that way.

    You feed the measurements, the quality of the responses etc, into a computer program and it then ranks the ladies, without considering other intangible that human judges would dwell on.

    You can imagine there being some ****ed-up Miss Californias or Miss Grermanys or wherever.


    BoxRec is a great site for digging up boxing info, but there rankings aren't meant to be taken seriously.
     
  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Great post. Box recs rankings suck, but there are other things I really like about it. For one thing you can track the "geneology" of a fighters resume'. You can follow the links and, in just a short time, review info that might other wise take months to dig up.
     
  7. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    I stopped taking Boxrec's ratings seriously when they had John Ruiz ranked number 1 before his fight with Nikolai Valuev.
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I have nothing to say about your post, but I do want you to realize that as of right now, Danny has got Sal ****ing SURROUNDED:yep:hey
     
  9. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    Bwahahaha!

    Those were great fights, Danny was a ****ing warrior.
     
  10. Hermit

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    They were only reasonable when they had Kelly Pavlik #1 P4P! After that it has been all downhill. :D
     
  11. Lee Mc

    Lee Mc Boxing Addict banned

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    Boxrec, the site that has Floyd Patterson higher in the all-time Heavyweight ratings then Holmes, Liston, Lewis, Foreman, and Jefferies.

    Only use it for records!