Edison Miranda: What makes him so bad?

Yes, you are completely delusional

He doesn't have any skills, thats his problem. His power is in one hand, and one punch, and he loses all power when he's backed up

All the top contenders at SMW have similar power, but vastly superior boxing skills

 

You can't see that Miranda has a limited skill set?

 

Well, beside the relative lack of boxing skill, his chin is questionable. It might be very good or it might be less than very good, but it doesn't look like it's excellent. At SMW you need a very good chin or better to make it to the top and stay there. Then, there is the relative lack of boxing skill. In a division full of very good chins, power doesn't seem to be enough, especially when he sets it up fairly predictably. Finally, there is the will to win. Miranda looks like he will fight anyone and do his very best, but he doesn't seem to have the kind of will to win that you need to take over the division. If he had had that will to win, he would have gotten at least a draw out of Abraham, with the ref or judges or without them. In fact, he should have finished him, despite the ref. He doesn't seem to have that killer mentality. We'll see against Kessler precisely how good he is at SMW.

 

He's not that unskilled but I thought he was way better at 160 than he is now at 168...IMO he lost alot of speed and even more relies on his power what makes him way more predictable.

His inside game is gone out of the window and setting up the overhand right won't be enough to compete versus the best at 168.

Miranda may well be a top10 contender but somebody who will never reach the top of the division...though I would give him a chance at 175 b/c it's a very weak weigh class with all those oldies and lame mofos hanging around (except Dawson and Erdei, but I would favour Miranda to beat the Hungarian)...

 

There are guys like Froch who are fairly limited defence and technique wise who seem better suited to take over - better chin and more will to win.

So far, nothing I've seen makes me want to put Miranda in the Top 8 at SMW, nevermind top 5 or better.

 

And for the record, i'm a huge Miranda fan. I look forward to every one of his fights because of his style. But he is very limited and you can't deny that.

 

Tho I agree that Miranda is very limited from a skill standpoint...I cant go with him having a questionable chin...those shots he took from Pavlik would have knocked out a elephant.

Tho Im not a big fan of Kelly's, his power is amazing.

 

I think it has a lot to do with a change in styles. He used to be a seek and destroy fighter. Now they're trying to mold him into a boxer/puncher. Which as Larry Merchant suggested, minimizes his effectiveness. I agree with him 100%. IMO, Miranda looked like complete **** against Porras and Banks both before he got the stoppages. I think the old Miranda would have disposed of both of them much, much earlier. Seems to me, there's a lot of fighters who go downhill (i.e. Prince Naseem Hamed) once trainers try to make them more "sound," and I believe that is what's happening to Miranda now. He's better served as a brawler than a boxer, even though, I don't think he'll beat the elites either way.

 

So are you saying he should just go Mayorga?

 

If you consider Miranda circa-Sherwin Davis/Howard Eastman Mayorga-esque, then yes.

 

He's a one handed fighter ... he can't fight going backwards ... he has no head or shoulder movement ... he got exposed by Kelly Pavlik and Pavlik let the world know the blueprint to beating Miranda.

He beat no one of any significance ... yet he still calls out good fighters.

He claims to have been in there with the best but hasn't beat any of them.

His biggest win comes over Allan Green

 

Miranda may be limited, but a one handed fighter, he aint. He has a great hook. He wobbled Eastman with a short, 6 inch hook that lead to the end of the fight. And KO'd Sherwin Davis with a left hook to the body.

 

Eastman? the preditor?

Who has he beat? ....

Did he hook Abraham? Did he hook Pavlik? all he did was try and drop them with right hand bombs. When he noticed he couldn't drop them and they fought back ... he couldn't do anything.

He might show some potential against tomato cans but against real fighters he doesn't do ****.

Can you please use fighters who have clout that he did something good against?

When I seen him fight -- he just resorted to the right hand.

If Allan Green had some balls - he wouldve knocked Miranda out.