Eduardo Lausse W10 Gene Fulmer. MW WAR.

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This is my favourite 10 rounder at MW.

    Lausse is mad underated IMO, and this might be his peak perfomance. He had strung together 30+ on the bounce and was unbeaten since Kid Gavilan had beaten him in 1952. He had avenged that defeat on points beating the kid on points two months before this one - Lausse had stopped his other three victims of that year, with only one man out of ten surviving the 12 months of '53, he was a huge puncher.

    Fulmer probably hadn't hit his peak yet, but he was only 14 months from his career defining win over Sugar Ray Robinson for the MW title, and he had already beaten Paul Pender, 9 months earlier.



    Lausse boxes out of a pretty orthodox, shuffling stance and has good balance and you can see why he is a hitter. He dominated the first couple of rounds with this left, both jab and hook, the second of which is an astonishing punch, all torque and leverage. I honestly haven't seen many better looking left hooks - when it lands. When it doesn't land he is a bit overexposed, though he has such fine balance that he can draw himself back in with decent speed. He has the base and you can see why he was such a good puncher. It's hard to say who is making the fight, Lausse providing the stalking pressure but without leading too often, Fullmer doing most of the leading off the back foot with commited lunges - a dangerous game against a pressure counter-pucher with Lausse's power.

    Lausse is a really strong human being and he handles Fulmer ok when Fulmer closes the gap to work the body.

    Fulmer arguably won round 3, but he was dropped by a picture perfect double hook, one down, onw up, from Lausse. The referee ruled a slip - Lausse does lean into him but the fall was caused primarily by punches IMO. Still, you have to go with the referee, and i would say this was Fulmer's first frame.

    Fulmer also did well in an excellent round 4, but Lausse beautifully re-establishes his jab at the end of the round and has Fulmer in a bit of trouble at the bell. The fight has now reached a boiling point with both guys throwing out fully commited heavy bombs, and although Fulmer is the one most often giving ground, he's also always back for more.

    Six is the round that sets these two apart as elite MW's IMO. Not many MW's would have gotten out of this round regardless of which corner they were boxing from, and these two not only take what the other is giving but continue to dish out their own hellacious violence. And although they look wild at times, Lausse when he misses, Fulmer regardless, they are boxing pretty well, maintaining balance, Lausse recovering himself and throwing out more leather, Fulmer doing what needs to be done to deliver his punches, often to the body. At one point, Fulmer lands a full blooded dead on body shot that would have snapped a lot of guys in half and Lausse doesn't even take a breath - instead he fires back with a sickening picture perfect left hook. Basically this round is the fight in microcosm and IMO one of the best in MW history.

    So round seven should be a rest round, right? Wrong. Fulmer is leading mostly with his head whilst Lausse takes after him with lead hooks and a lead uppercut which mostly miss. There IS some wrestling and clinching in the first minute and a half, but by the end they are back in a rareified war zone, they are duking it out in Fulmer's corner and he looks in some trouble, but incredibly comes battling back with body shots. It's a breath-taking moment and the crowd is on it's feet.

    Eight is quieter, but Fulmer is dropped, shipping three murderous left hooks in moderate succession, one down two up, he was stepping onto the last one. He is up at "1" and fighting back. Round 9 is quieter and belongs to Fulmer, but 10 is beyond belief Fulmer shipping brutal, sickening punches but always always coming back, mainly to the body.

    At the final bell they go arm in arm to Lausse's corner. And that's the most striking thing about a really striking fight. Fullmer is naughty with the head throughout, it's a rough fight, they both fire bombs at each other but they are also both gentlemen. When Fullmer gets tangled in a seated position in the ropes, Luasse steps away and gives him time to stand up. When he feints Fulmer headfirst into the turnbuckle, Lausse waits for hisman to turn and they touch gloves before proggressing. It's realy special to see them touch up at the end of every brutal, savage round.

    I'm kind off high or Lausse right now. Rugged, savage, great punch resistance with real patience, great balance and a good jab he'd be a handful for any MW, ever based upon this performance. His right hand isn't as good as his left and like i say, he punches with such commitment he sometimes leaves himself exposed, but an excellent fighter. It would be a precise puncher with a good chin that would cause him trouble I think.

    Maybe this fight took something out of him though, because he would win only 2/6 in the following year. He would only leave Argentina on two more occasions going 1-1.

    Fullmer of course would go on to become one of the most highly regarded middles in history. I would bet he learned some lessons here though.


    Sorry for this essay, but this fight isn't on YouTube or whatever, and I wanted to give you guys a sense of this fight, which you should track down if you possibly can. It's not good, it's great, a wonderful ten rounder and perfect for being that - Fullmer might not have made it to the bell in a 15 rounder and he deserved to finish on his feet.

    Judges had it 7-3, 7-3 and 6-3 for Lausse.


    Who's seen the fight? What did you think? Anyone know the story on Lausse-Gavilan II? What do you make of Lausse?
     
  2. McGrain

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    Highlights from Sweetfights!!!!!! Don't ask me how i missed em first time round, i found them googling for pictures! Anyway, enjoy. Please skip my now redundant write up :lol::
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtp0LxAP_t0


    Let me know your impression of Lausse.
     
  3. WhataRock

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    Great post McGrain.

    Some of its actually on youtube and Ive only seen that..which is about 3 rounds I think but its looks like a war. EDIT: I see youve put it up there.

    Anyway Lausse was certainly underrated and very good value..That left hook his was deadly, thrown with bad intentions and then some.
    Both guys were both loading up so much they were showing us a great example of Newton's third law..as the sheer force of the punch delivered actually sent the deliverer back a step or two when it landed.

    Love to see that fight in full.
     
  4. McGrain

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    Newton's third law, god damn right.

    I don't think i've seen a better formed hook than Lausse's. If he was a more accurate, intelligent puncher, I think it would be my pick for top 5 all time, if that means anything at all which it doesn't. I'll post it up anyway, hahahaha.

    Anyway, great punch.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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    Who do you guys see beating Lausse in a punch-out?
     
  6. McGrain

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    Dick Tiger, Marvin Hagler and Mickey Walker.

    How about Hank?
     
  7. Sweet Pea

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    Hagler? The same Hagler that was on his bike the entire night against Cyclone Hart and Bennie Briscoe? He'd be fighting the exact same way against Lausse, who was IMO the clearly superior fighter to either.

    Tiger and Valdez are two I'd love to see him up against. Hank wasn't as consistent with his attack or reliable defensively.
     
  8. McGrain

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    Well you didn't ask how Hagler would fight, you asked me who would beat him in a shoot out. And I pick Hagler.

    Yeah, Hank is a bit of a letfield shout, but he'd really be letting it all hang out which might be the way to take best advantage of Lausse in style.
     
  9. Mantequilla

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    Sibson vs Lausse would probably be a great fight for as long as it lasted(whoever wins).

    Gratien Tonna was a beast in a shootout as well.Huge puncher and massively strong, he pushed Valdez very hard.
     
  10. Manassa

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    Through choice. Hagler'd outpunch all of them if he wanted to.

    And yeah I'd go with Valdez and Tiger.
     
  11. McGrain

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    Nobody thinks Walker would be a good match for him?
     
  12. dpw417

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    JG referred to Lausse looking like an inverted triangle to me onetime. Just an unbelieveable left hook.
     
  13. Raging B(_)LL

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    He would be a good match for sure, but as to wether or not he would defeat Lausse is another matter entirely. He could do it, but honestly I think Lausse` firepower will keep him honest enough to allow Eduardo some operating room to unload those thunderous left hooks of his.

    Walker`s best bet would be to try and force an inside battle of attrition, if he could get in close and bang away he`s got a shot, but if the fight is at mid-range or from a distance I think Lausse takes it. As for Hagler in a shootout his stout chin would serve him well and would likely be the deciding factor, its been proven and battle tested against some bonafide bangers so my guess is he would take what Lausse could dish out before grinding him down for a late stoppage or UD.

    But then again if Lausse were to land flush with one of his trademark left hooks anything can happen, and my guess is once Hagler tastes one of those hooks he would wisely revert to boxing off the backfoot and playing it safe. Hell, if an ancient and old as dust Briscoe had him reverting to boxing then Lausse would likely force him to do the same.

    Tiger would be too durable and his shorter, crisper punches in close would find their mark with more regularity than Eduardo`s wider punches, in this one I envision Lausse taking on the role of the boxer/counterpuncher although it would be for naught as Tiger wins this either way, too many tools in his repertoire and too damn tough to knock out. Lausse has the power to buzz him good and make him wary of coming in recklessly, but he ain`t gonna flatten Tiger.

    Anyway its nice to see Lausse get some recognition and much deserved acclaim for a change, you rarely ever hear his name much on any boxing forum but those who do sing his praises as I have been for years among others know he was the goods.

    He was the goods, in shape at all times, determined as hell and that wrecking ball on a chain of a left hook of his was frighteningly powerful and would get even the most iron chinned of fighters respect. He was also very strong physically, it takes one strong man to bull around a guy like Fullmer who was very strong himself.

    Fullmer sure looked worried in there at times when he realised this Argentinian ball of fury wasn`t getting fazed by anything Gene landed on him. And since McGrain mentioned it the sportsmanship these two displayed at the end of the bout towards each other is something that is sorely lacking in todays fight game, nowadays its all about posturing and bravado and trash talking unfortunately.

    Oh and McGrain since you asked Lausse was the aggressor in the second bout vs Gavilan from the limited footage I have of their return bout. Gavilan was boxing off the backfoot behind his jab and looking to counter but Lausse was pressing forward and aggressively taking the fight to the Cuban, my guess is his dogged and persistent attack throughout the bout earned him the win. Apparently in their first bout Lausse showed too much respect to Gavilan and and fell behind early before rallying late but was too little too late by then.
     
  14. McGrain

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    Very, very impressive to beat Gavilan by by way of aggression, even with the size advantage. Cheers RB.
     
  15. Sweet Pea

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    I don't see where people are so confident in Hagler's brawling abilities. Anytime he faced a fighter of that caliber he resorted to boxing off the backfoot. Obviously because he knew it was the best strategy, but even when he did decide to bang it out, it was never with a fighter on the level of a Lausse, Valdez, Fullmer, etc. Hearns had nowhere near the strength, durability, or in-fighting skills of these guys. Mugabi was at least a level or two below as well, so really what else have we to go on? Obel?