Educate me: Cleveland “BigCat” Williams

Only butthurt stupid Liston paroles and army of fans.

 

So Ezzard Charles is now MW and LaMotta is LHw...then guess James Toney is real heavyweight.

 

Hey, MODEL IDIOT, it’s ONLY you who has Sonny Liston on the brain.

You’re more obsessed with Charles than anyone else here. That makes you very weird and heavily compromised.

Actually READ the independent and impartial Boxrec description of the LaMotta vs Satterfield fight, which they have duly classified as having been fought at at LHW.

Are you gonna write to Boxrec and tell em that they’re wrong also, you damned fool?

My logic is logic. Toney stopped Holyfield. So what does your imbecilic “logic” tell you - that Evander was stopped by a MW/SMW and that Holy is therefore due a downgrade? You’re such a dumbass.

Btw, to reiterate, duly heed and follow Item # 12 as specified so aptly and succinctly by Mr Mac.

 

You are so stupid and so butthurt that I can not even take it lol hahah.
LaMotta was never true LHW and Ezzard was never true MW like Toney was never true HW.
Anyway Toney beat washed Holyfield but he would be stopped by Holyfield that beat Bowe.

 

A HW Toney beat a HW Holyfield. Btw Norbert, ‘Vander also weighed more than Tones, you half-wit. You just got Serbed, yet again, you clown. Your IQ (Idiot Quotient) is off the charts...

 

You can be a big fan and still reasonable, which is how I view you. Boxing Fool is clearly a well compromised hater who isn’t too bright also.

 

Reading this thread with BF02 on Ignore is like watching Hollow Man…if Kevin Bacon was r#%^rded.

 

I ignore his content and seldom respond to it unless I genuinely can't help myself but I can't put the guy on ignore, because he's just to entertaining tbh.

 

He was a heavyweight ,when he fought heavyweights.
Here are his weights
217
227
233
235
237
233
234
229
226
230
217
248
250
243
217
217
257
233
248
Toney was ranked as a heavyweight in.
2003 no3
2004 no4
2005 no3
2006 no4
You are the clown that said Lamotta was a welter weight!
He never fought as one!
Floyd Patterson was once a middleweight.
Muhammad Ali a light heavyweight.
L Spinks a lightheavyweight.
M Spinks a middleweight.
Jimmy Ellis a middleweight.
Roberto Duran a lightweight.
Etc, Etc, Etc,
You are absurd!

 

He was a top 5 rated HW through 4 consecutive years. He was as much a HW as anyone else competing in the division @that time.

Holy had beaten Rahman just 2 fights earlier & fought for several more years after the Toney loss w/o being stopped again after that. Why couldn't any so-called "real" Hws stop Holy around the same time?

Toney's chin held up for 12 rnds vs. bigger & harder hitting HWs than a young Holy.

 

Roberto Duran deserves a mention.

 

Thanks Pug.

 

Beat a washed Holyfiels and Toney was never a HW and would get knocked by Tyson and Lennox.

 

Now Toney is a good HW which is laughable.

He did good only because he fought in weak era, had he fought prime Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe...he would get killed!